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VATICAN CITY, DEC 29, 2005 (VIS) - . . . Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, Archbishop Major of Kyiv-Halyc, with the consent of the Synod of the Greek-Catholic Ukrainian Church and after having informed the Apostolic See, transferred Bishop Ihor Vozniak, C.SS.R., from Auxiliary Bishop of the Archeparchy of Lviv of the Ukrainians to residential Archbishop of the same see.
With this terse announcement today from the Vatican, Rome has approved OFFICIALLY and publicly the transfer of the UGCC's seat from Lviv to Kyiv.

It comes one day after Patriarch Alexei again renewed his call for the Roman Catholic Church to stop "proselytizing" in Russia and in the "traditional" areas under the Moscow Patriarchate, particularly Ukraine! (Cf. http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=41504)

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The Vatican has acknowledged the controversial move by Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, the Major Archbishop of the Ukrainian Catholic Church, who in August transferred his see from Lviv to the Ukrainian capital city of Kiev, despite angry opposition from the Russian Orthodox Church.

A terse public statement released on December 29 by the Vatican Information Service announced that Cardinal Husar had named Bishop Ihor Vozniak as the new Archbishop of Lviv. The Vatican announcement identified Cardinal Husar by his new title as "Archbishop Major of Kiev-Halyc."
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But how grumpy are the Russian Orthodox these days? Not as grumpy as previously thought? smile
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Moscow, Dec. 27 (CWNews.com) - Archbishop Tadeusz Kondrusiewicz of Moscow reached out to Russian Orthodox believers during his homily at Christmas Mass, saying that despite differences in their respective liturgical calendars, Catholics and Orthodox "share the single joy of Bethlehem."

The archbishop's words were a reference to a recent controversy in Moscow, where Catholic and Orthodox believers celebrate Christmas on different days. The Russian Orthodox Church, using the Julian calendar, celebrates the Nativity on January 7. Catholics, along with most Protestants in Russia, celebrate Christmas on December 25. Archbishop Kondrusiewicz also expressed his best wishes to those celebrating the feast on the later date.

Some militant Orthodox believers, led by a prominent Moscow deacon, had threatened to picket the city's Catholic cathedral on December 25, "in defense of the Russian Christmas." That protest was called off when it provoked adverse reactions.

Russian Orthodox Patriarch Alexei II made his own gesture toward Catholics, and other Christians "celebrating Christmas on December 25 according to new style," with a public statement: "I wholeheartedly wish you radiant joy in the newborn Savior, good health, and

God�s help in your lofty ministry. "

"...God�s help in your lofty ministry."? cool

Perhaps a thaw in ecclesial relations?

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Perhaps a thaw in ecclesial relations?

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Russian prelate wants Ukrainian Catholic move to Kiev reversed

Moscow, Dec. 30 (CWNews.com) - Russian Orthodox Patriarch Alexei II repeated his insistence that the Vatican must stop Catholic "proselytism" in eastern Europe, during a December 30 meeting with journalists in Moscow.

Questioned about the likelihoo of a "summit meeting" with Pope Benedict XVI (bio - news), Patriarch Alexei said that Rome and Moscow have different perspectives on that possibility. While the Vatican believes that a face-to-face meeting could produce progress toward ecumenical unity, the Moscow Patriarchate argues that "such a meeting should be preceded by an improvement in relations," the Russian prelate said. The most difficult issues should be resolved before a summit meeting, he said, because "complex issues should not be raised and discussed during a meeting between the Patriarch and the Pope."

Patriarch Alexei told the press that he was hopeful for some ecumenical progress after a meeting of a joint Catholic-Orthodox commission, set up to discuss the issues that have caused disputes between the Vatican and the Russian Orthodox leadership. That committee met in Moscow earlier this week.

The Russian patriarch said that he hoped, in particular, the joint session would convince Catholic leaders that the Ukrainian Catholic Church, having recently established new headquarters in the capital city of Kiev, should return to Lviv, reversing a move made in August 2005. Such a move is highly unlikely. Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, the Major Archbishop of the Ukrainian Catholic Church, recently appointed a new Archbishop of Lviv. The appointment was acknowledged by the Holy See, in a public statement which, for the first time, also recognized Cardinal Husar as the Archbishop of Kiev.
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Our holy father John Paul II was long suffering at the hands of a hostile and reactioary Russian Orthodox church. By his obvious recognition of Ukrainian Catholic independence .Our new holy father Benedict XVI may be showing a willingness to confront ROC hostility instead of suffering it.

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Dear Friends,

The naivete of some posters with respect to Rome's "terse" approval of the "controversial" move is what is of concern, not the quite predictable ROC reaction.

The reason the approval was "terse" is that Rome is not happy that the UGCC is continuing to be thorn not only in the side of ROC ambitions in Ukraine, but also those of Rome's ostpolitik.

The point is even with Rome bending over backwards for the ROC and continuing to steadfastly refuse acknowledgement of the UGCC's patriarchate, the ROC continues to be hostile toward it.

The dilemma Rome is in is that the child of its 17th century machinations with respect to the Union of Brest which is the UGCC is now its major stumbling block to its approach to the MP.

Rome may not know it yet, but there will come a time when it will have to simply choose between the UGCC and the MP.

Until that time, its statements about the UGCC will indeed continue to be "terse."

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Well then we know who has to be laid on the "altar of sacrifice"! Dont we?
As the proverb goes at least in Norwegian: "A bird in the the hand is worth more than twelve on the roof."
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