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Lets start a Twitter page for Eastern Catholic news.

Only if it carries the strictly-enforced proviso that it not become another forum for neo-con Latins to air the screeds on the 'old mass', the 'new mass' and such like! East is East and West is West! Are there not enough forums for Latins to vent their spleen?

Gosh, who said anything about the Latins? I'm surely not one. I used to be one.

This very forum bristles with the screeds of Latins. As I wrote once before, I may even sympathize with their plight but surely there are sufficient sites for them to air their grievances. Please leave us, beleaguered minority as we are, in peace!

The wonderful thing about the forum is, if you are not interested in a particular thread, you can pass it over unread.

To be sure! But why should I have to wade through the quagmire of neo-con observations on the e.g. 'extraordinary' form vs. the astounding form on the BYZANTINE Forum? Blogs on the RDL, fine!

Like I said, I think its high time we made our presence on Twitter and tell them that there's more to the Catholic Church than the Roman Rite.

As I said, nobody makes you read those. I suspect you secretly enjoy reading them, the way some people like to scratch at mosquito bites.

Please let me assure you that I am actually nauseated by the narcissism of the neo-con Latins who feel they must vent their spleen on purely internal Latin matters before their Eastern brothers. Please go to some Latin site and leave this one small venue to our embattle and much beleaguered (and now AGGRIEVED) minority! Peace but leave us in peace as an exercise in fraternal charity.

What you need to understand is that they have a billion people, and we have about a third of that at most. So, what affects their health, affects us all. The liturgical chaos of the Latin Church drives many Latin traditionalists into Greek Catholic parishes, where they either become a blessing or a curse, depending on whether they have the inclination to "go native". The presence of many who would not inhibited the ability of the Eastern Catholic Churches to restore their authentic Tradition for many years. What happens in the Latin church down the corner is as important to us as what is happening in our own.

I don't live on the dark side of the moon! I am aware of the ubiquity of the Roman Rite and am not indifferent to its problems. (I do teach Latin and Greek in a Roman seminary!) It's just that our forum ought to be an oasis where we can be ourselves and not have to experience being swamped by the billion. So please take your 'extraordinary forms' and such baggage to a forum for disgruntled Latins. If an issue arises concerning inculturation of former Latins or those contemplating joining an Eastern Church, this is certainly grist for our mill. But purely Latin claptrap, thanks but no thanks! Our Savior warned us not to be like dogs returning to their vomit!

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Father, bless

I rarely post nowadays , but I really feel I must do now.

Byzcath is special - it's where I first really became aware of the East , where folk were willing to let me ask questions and they answered them patiently .

It's a place where many come to ask questions - there's no other Forum like Byzcath - where Catholics and Orthodox can talk together in a civil fashion , where non-Cathlics are also welcomed and their questions are answered .

It's a place where quite a few people have, after times of personal [ often painful ] soul searching, made decisions as to where God wished them to be .

I would not like to see all topics regarding Latin Catholics and their practices unwelcome - I just ask that we respect that they may have problems , and would ask them to respect the fact that we cannot solve their problems.

As I stipulated, any bona fide question or observation on the Christian East from a Latin Catholic seeking guidance ought to be (and is) welcomed. Purely internal Latin problems, e.g. the 'extraordinary form' versus the 'novus ordo', the propriety of joining certainly schismatic and probably heretical sects (SSPX), or attempts to enlighten us benighted Easterners with the 'light' from that great cloud of unknowing which is neo-con romanism ought to find a more crank-specific venue. By now even the simplest mind must realize that I am passed 'helping' and desire nothing more than to spend the rest of my life in peace and repentance.

However, it has been stated here by several Orthodox members that the innovations of the Novus Ordo present a problem for reunion with the Orthodox (I assume such people mean the laity, since I have never heard the matter brought up by anyone who counts among the Orthodox hierarchy), so, apparently, some Orthodox DO consider this purely internal Latin issue something which impinges upon the relations of the Eastern Churches.

Also grist for our mill! But that's not what the blogs I have in mind are all about. What's more, you know it! The bloggers I have in mind are Vatican II refuseniks: the only concern they have for the Orthodox is to see them properly converted to Roman Catholicism a` la Fatima apparitions. PLEASE: peace and repentance!