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The lack of due process described by Father Corapi is the principal reason for my disagreement with the Dallas Charter, and why, rather than submit to a background investigation (I hold a U.S. government security clearance, so I have been investigated many times, far more thoroughly than the pro forma investigations done by the Church) or sign an agreement that waives away all my legal rights, or the "pledge" whereby I agree not to diddle little boys, I simply walked away from teaching ECF after seven years. The whole process is not designed to protect children, or the innocent, but to cover the butts of our God-loving bishops and insulate them and their dioceses from legal liability.

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The enemy hates priests and bishops. Let me say that again. The enemy hates priests and bishops.
But I disagree. The devil certainly doesn't hate bishops, who have done so much help his cause over the centuries. Fortunately, the divine will cannot be gainsaid by the follies and petty jealousies of sinful men.

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Turns out bishops were most certainly, directly or indirectly, involved in the Corapi situation. And I agree with Stuart K's post about the Dallas Charter.That's a mean-spirited plan of action if there ever was one. What Fr. Corapi said about it is also accurate. Inflicting misery on others as a response to sacerdotal misconduct: just exactly what can be expected out of clericalised, privileged, threatened and freaked-out, reactionary, incompetent "servant-leaders".(that's the outlandish sobriquet a certain bishop bestowed on himself and his gang of winged-monkeys. God, however, intervened and cast those high-and mighty so-and-sos down from THEIR thrones)

So many people in our Churches know about and insist on the observance of every rule in the book - so pharisaical - but when it comes to the Golden Rule, they ain't got a clue.

I mean all this with love, compassion & empathy - but I mean it. Boy, do I ever.

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Very well put Stuart, my sentiments exactly.

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I am unfamiliar with the Dallas Charter, esp. as to it's lack of procedural unfairness.

Can someone point out the specific sections that are bad?

Thanks for your help?

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http://www.newadvent.org/

If you click on the headline "Breaking: Corapi issues a second statement, and comes out swinging...", and listen to his second talk. I find it rather odd, that a priest would have thousands of dollars to spend. Just listen to the mp3. Were talking hundreds of thousands. Do we have priests who make million dollar incomes!. Or was this all before he became a priest. Sounds like he still has plenty stashed away somewhere from his talk. Please comment after you have listened to it.

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Nothing says a priest has to be poor. And none of that changes the fact that the procedures in place under the Dallas Charter are unfair and deny due process to the accused. If you don't believe Father Corapi (whom I don't know from Adam, so I have no dog in that particular fight), try the late Father Richard John Neuhaus and Avery Cardinal Dulles, who also saw through the blather about doing something "for the children".

A good summation of the problem can be found in this recent article from First Things [firstthings.com] .

Bishops can (and often are) tyrants; power corrupts, and all that. There is here, in the Diocese of Arlington, a priest who was suspended from ministry because he blew the whistle on a fellow priest committing sexual irregularities--after he had first reported this to the bishop, who did nothing. After an extended investigation that revealed no crime or violations on the part of the priest who made the report, he was not reinstated, but remains "suspended from active ministry". He tried to bring suit in Virginia state courts against the Bishop of Arlington (for denying him his livelihood), but the court refused to hear the case because it does not interfere in internal matters of Church administration. Something like four years after the conclusion of the investigation against him, the priest remains in limbo.

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The Church is in need of remedial catechesis on the Eighth Commandment.

Those who make false accusations should face penalties as harsh or more severe those faced by their victims.

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Here is a reprint of Father Richard John Neuhaus' Scandal Time III [freerepublic.com] , a critique of the Dallas Charter and on the cowardice of the bishops. A snippet:


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The No-Mercy Route

On the other hand, there was a curious story in the Times, also on the front page, only two days later. Written by Laurie Goodstein, it worried that the bishops may have been too responsive, that by caving so completely to media pressure they had lost even more of the little moral authority they had left. It used to be, she writes, that the bishops could prophetically challenge popular opinion on questions such as abortion, welfare reform, capital punishment, and foreign policy, but now they are on the run. More important, by caving to demands for "one strike" and "zero tolerance" policies that will remove from ministry faithful priests who did one bad thing thirty years ago and have since had an impeccable record and are clearly no threat to anybody, Dallas may have changed the very self-understanding of the Church.

Goodstein writes: "Ultimately, [the bishops] opted for the no-mercy route despite arguments from some bishops that they should adopt an approach that acknowledges that each case is different, and that some abusers can with therapy be rehabilitated and continue to be of service. They took this step despite dreading that they must now return to their dioceses and tell seventy-year-old Father X that he will have to pack up and leave his parish in shame." Some bishops have already done that and she notes that in recent months there have been instances when parishioners have rebelled against the removal of beloved pastors. The shaming has had other consequences. "Two priests have committed suicide," she observes. "There could be more." Where there is no mercy, there is no hope. I expect Goodstein is not alone among reporters who are surprised and disappointed by the spinelessness of the bishops. After all, they as reporters were just doing their job in applying the pressure. They expected bishops of the Catholic Church to do their job, to respond as bishops. Instead, as Goodstein puts it, there is the perception that they "behaved more like Senators or CEO’s engaged in damage control than as moral teachers engaged in the gospel."

At least in large part, damage control was achieved, but at an unconscionable price. Bishop Howard J. Hubbard of Albany, New York, usually thought to be solidly in the liberal camp of the episcopal conference, spoke up against "zero tolerance." He pointed out that just last year the bishops issued a statement calling for the rehabilitation of prisoners and advocating "restorative justice." "Do we advocate this biblical concept for the community at large, but not for our own priests?" he asked. The hall fell silent when the revered Avery Cardinal Dulles moved to the microphone. The proposed charter, he said, "puts a very adversarial relationship between the bishop and the priest. The priest can no longer go to his bishop in confidence with a problem that he has. He has to be very careful what he says to the bishop because the bishop can throw him out of the ministry for his entire life." The bishops listened respectfully, and rejected his counsel.

Two orthodox stalwarts, Cardinals George of Chicago and Bevilacqua of Philadelphia urged support of the charter, but with heavy hearts. Cardinal Bevilacqua said, "It hurts to say I support zero tolerance. I wish I didn’t have to do that. I wish our circumstances were different. But, at the same time, in our present crisis we must place the common good of our Church first." With respect, isn’t that the way of thinking that produced the crisis in the first place? The good of the Church was defined in terms of avoiding scandal; thus the pattern of evasion, denial, hush money, and cover-up. It was necessary, it was said, to do some shady things to avoid scandal, all of which resulted in monumental scandal. Now, morally dubious measures are necessary for the good of the Church, in order to put that scandal behind us. The result may be a greater scandal; not, to be sure, in the eyes of the media but in the understanding of those whose chief concern is for the integrity of the Church’s faith and life.

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The Church is in need of remedial catechesis on the Eighth Commandment.

Not to mention the Fourth and Fifth Amendments.

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The very latest: http://soltnews.blogspot.com/2011/07/press-release-concerning-fr-john-corapi.html

This shocking and very sad:

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SOLT’s fact-finding team has acquired information from Fr. Corapi’s
e-mails, various witnesses, and public sources that, together, state that,
during his years of public ministry:

He did have sexual relations and years of cohabitation (in California and
Montana) with a woman known to him, when the relationship began, as a
prostitute; He repeatedly abused alcohol and drugs; He has recently engaged
in sexting activity with one or more women in Montana; He holds legal title
to over $1 million in real estate, numerous luxury vehicles, motorcycles, an
ATV, a boat dock, and several motor boats, which is a serious violation of
his promise of poverty as a perpetually professed member of the Society.


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Maybe this will shed some light...he is the Emeritus Bishop of the Diocese Corpus Christi


http://abyssum.wordpress.com/2011/0...fully-on-the-case-of-father-john-corapi/

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What is happening to poor EWTN with all these scandals? Lord have mercy!

Maybe, (and forgive me if I offend anyone, and I know that it will be a difficult financial burden)it is time for an optional married priesthood in the Catholic Church? Just a thought because it might help offset the temptations some of these good men and faithful servants are facing in today's world.

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I don't see how it could more of a financial burden than the lawsuits have been.

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I wish it were that easy, to solve problems like the ones Fr. Corapi got into. But married priests/clergymen sometimes engage in the same behaviours...just here in Dallas the former pastor of the local Greek Orthodox community was credibly accused of sexually abusing the altar boys. The fact that he was married and the father of several children (including a priest) didn't seem to have fazed him.

He is now deceased and buried in the Orthodox Christian section of a large local cemetery. He wanted to be buried as a priest but that did not happen. That he was even interred in the Orthodox cemetery section both astonished and pleased me. I am sorry all this happened - he was never unkind to ME, a lowly uniate...

All of this is both puzzling and tragic. Only God can figure it out.

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Sounds like untreated bi-polar/naricisstic personality disorder. Probably stretching back decades.

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