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Dear Forum Members,
Praised be Jesus Christ!

I visited a ROCOR church earlier this year, and heard a melody which I thought was so beautiful I could not forget it-but, I never found out what it was called. I found this link, by a miracle, where it is sung just as I heard it:



Could anyone PLEASE tell me what particular Tone/Singing Style this particular piece is?

THANK YOU so very much!!!

Sounds like "Ne riday mene Maty"

Go to:


"Weep not for me O Mother" is the title of this Liturgical Hymn.

Here is another clip, from Fr. Galadza's church:

You might be able to make out the words better here:

Paschal Nocturnes [youtube.com]

It's sung just before the proclamation of Pascha at what is known as the Nocturne Service.

Thank You all! But, what kind of melody is this? Tone 1, 2, 3,....? Kievan Tone? A Tone used only at Pascha? An Obikhod Tone?

The link I gave above described it as:



I'm not sure but I think it's also sung at the leave-taking of Pascha. Others more knowledgeable than I can comment on that.

It is the Irmos of Ode 9 of the Canon of Holy Saturday (also sung at Nadhrobne/Paschal Midnight Office). In the Kyivan (amd by extension Galician) and Russian traditions it is normally sung in Tone 6 Znamenny or "Lesser Znamenny" settings. These melodies are not only used at this time but for other irmosi of other canons in the same tone. Each particular musical tradition has these melodies contained in a volume called the "Irmologion".

In the Greek tradition a completely different set of irmosi melodies are used. This text has also been set to some choral renditions as well.

It is a "Irmos tone" not used for sticheri, troparia, kontakia, etc. It is easy to sing and learn the harmonization.

I would also like to raise another point out of love for our Church. Let's not refer to "from Galadza's church," as a previous poster referred, but either Father Galadza's church or Saint Elias Church, Brampton. What we may do in private is one thing, but on a public board, let be classy and proper. :-)

Ray
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I cannot thank you all enough!
Also, does anyone know of a website where they have different Russian/Kyivan Tones available to listen to, to help those who cannot read music to learn to sing?
Many thanks & God Bless!

There are two versions at the very bottom, with sheet music and a midi file:

http://stephenhowanetz.tripod.com/great_lent1.htm

7x70,

No disrespect was meant at all to Fr. Roman, his parish, or the faithful in Brampton.

I understand. Let's call him "Father" then. OK?

I did, like my above post.