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Is there available online, or in print, an English translation of the 1905 document referred to as "Ea Semper"? I have seen it referred to numerous times but have had little luck finding a translation online through numerous searches so far. Along the same query, is there extant English translations of Cum Data Fuerit, online or print? (1929)

Thanks in advance,

Steve

Fr. Deacon Lance suggested, in a response to this same question, that the documents are contained in a two volume set "Vatican Documents on the Eastern Churches" available at Eastern Christian Publications [raven.webvalence.com]

I didn't find what you were looking for, but here are some interesting books anyway, or so they seem. Until today I had no idea that google had such a resource to public domain books.

Modern American Religion: The Irony of It All, 1893-1919
by Martin E Marty - Provided by University of Chicago Press through the Google Books Partner Program
http://books.google.com/books?ie=UT...=PP1&sig=3524k0Vl3NhaVmqo1kUtegrqwZo [books.google.com]
It is mentioned on page 130


Peasants in the Promised Land: Canada and the Ukrainians
by Jaroslav Petryshyn - Provided by James Lorimer & Company through the Google Books Partner Program
http://print.google.com/print?id=Xf...aP-HZjxDDlBuMM0cWTkD5-RUF7k_F2xciGN9vPZE [print.google.com]
pg 202

Studia Patristica. Vol. XXVII - Cappadocian Fathers - Greek Authors after Nicaea - Augustine...
by Livingstone E.A. - Provided by Peeters Publishers through the Google Books Partner Program
http://books.google.com/books?ie=UT...20&sig=WclZHvXl9 KOtZNnMG-XTDcNokDE [books.google.com]

I suppose this link will take you to all these books there are about 40 pages. I stand corrected 3890 pages
http://books.google.com/books?q=Ea+Semper&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&start=0

DJS,

I went to the link provided https://ssl.webvalence.com/ecommerce/searchCode.lasso which yielded the following screen:

Please identify the desired merchant and kiosk.
Example: kiosk.lasso?merchant=merchantName&kiosk=kioskName

Perhaps the link is incomplete?

Thanks,

Steve

I see the original post was corrected! Thanks!

The original link was to a page, showing the two volumes, that came up after using the site's internal search. The URL, however, didn't reflect the actual page, but the search engine itself. So I edited to link to the home page. Click to the on-line catalog, then click the search. Search for "Vatican documents" and the correct page should come up. Or download the pdf catalog. The books are on page 6.

Or maybe this [ssl.webvalence.com] will work.

The salient points of the "Ea Semper" decree are excerpted in English translation as a full page of "Our People: Carpatho-Rusyns and Their Descendants in North America," by Paul Robert Magocsi.

There is a new edition out, but in the edition I have, copyrighted 1984, and published by the Multicultural History Society of Ontario, it is page 31.

For the record, the document is dated 1908 there.

An English translation of the salient excerpts from the "Cum Data Fuerit" decree, based on the first published edition from 1930, appear on page 35

For what it's worth, "Ea Semper" is dated June 14 1907 in "Byzantine Rite Rusins in Carpatho-Ruthenia and America" by Walter C. Warzeski, which is long out of print.

--tim

The "dead book room" at the Seminary has a few copies of Warzeski to spare as well as the "Historical Mirror" published by Fr. John Slivka of blessed memory, long pastor of St Elias, Brooklyn. Historical Mirror is Fr.John's retelling of Ruthenian Byz.Cath. history in Europe and the New World, largely through a translation of all the relevant primary documents. The English is sketchy, but it's all there. Email me (not private message on this forum) at jackcus@verizon.net if you'd like to trade a donation to the Seminary library for either of these publications.

Fr. Jack Custer

Are there any more copies of Walter Warzeski's book available?