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Dear brethren.

We have and use this antimension at our church in Costa Rica (Roman church). I wanted to know if someone here could please translate the text for us, into English or Spanish. Apparently it is from the 50s. It says 1955 in the left side (vertically, in the border, small print)

Any other information which you might know about this antimension (the origin, the rite, etc) will also be greatly appreciated.

May God bless you all.

You can view a large picture here:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GGLsZ3gTU...2ybp-g/s1600/P7301054+%2528copy%2529.JPG

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Daniel,

Welcome to the forum.

My brothers and sisters, because I've already seen a similar posting by Daniel elsewhere, allow me to shortcut some of the questions that will otherwise be asked. Their church is a building converted for use as a small temporary chapel that lacks an altarstone and relics.

The antimension was given to them for use by a priest (Eastern or Latin, not sure which) a couple of years ago because of the situation. Without it, they would lack a consecrated altar on which to serve.

Please, take these facts into consideration. In charity, give the benefit of the doubt and consider that its presence allows he and his fellow congregants to worship.

My sense is that they are most respectful of what they have and wish only to better understand its origins, etc.

Many years,

Neil

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I found the photo at the url a bit dark for reading, so I copied and brightened it and posted it to the Photo Gallery. Unfortunately, I had to reduce the size somewhat to stay within the size limits of the Gallery uploads, so - though brighter - it may not be as readable.

Many years,

Neil


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Viewing a much-enlarged photo - and with my trusty Russian dictionary close at hand - I think that I've deciphered the name of the bishop who blessed it (my eyes and head won't let me keep at this to translate any more of it). If I'm correct, it was blessed by Andrei, Bishop of Nauplia.

A quick perusal of David Cheney's Catholic-Hierarchy.org shows that Nauplia in Greece is a currently vacant titular see. The last bishop to hold titular title to it was the beloved Bishop Andrei Katkoff, MIC, of blessed memory, who, when he reposed in 1995, was the last surviving hierarch of the Russian Greek-Catholic Church.

Those with much better translation skills than mine (like anyone with real skills of that sort) would have to confirm that.

Many years,

Neil


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You have the bishop and his diocese correct. Old Slavonic is a hard one to work through.

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Originally Posted by Irish Melkite
The last bishop to hold titular title to it was the beloved Bishop Andrei Katkoff, MIC, of blessed memory, who when he reposed in 1995 was the last surviving hierarch of the Russian Greek-Catholic Church.
Neil

On their website Saint Michael's Russian [stmichaelruscath.org] Eastern Catholic Church in NY has a picuture of Bishop Andrei [stmichaelruscath.org], of blessed memory, in front of their Iconostasis preaching.

I respect our moderator's request that we not question the present use of this Antimension. I've already expressed my discomfort elsewhere.

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Dear friends,

Thank you very much for the help that you are giving us. As the moderator stated, this Antimension is held in a chapel here in Costa Rica. It is used by the priest to celebrate mass, and it is treated with the uttermost respect. We are very conscious of how sacred this is.

It is also used to teach people about the Eastern Rite (in this country it is virtually unknown, as there is no presence of it). As part of this teaching, we would love to be able to know what it is written on it.

God bless you all!

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Rough translation based on translation of similar antimension

Top inside:

The divine and sacred altar has been constituted by the very act of divine celebration and consecrated by the divine grace of the all-holy and life giving Spirit, to celebrate on it the divine liturgy in the church of Saint:

Bottom inside:

through the preparation and blessing of Andrew, by the grace of God and the Holy Roman Apostolic See, Bishop of Nauplia, on day: month: year:

On the border, the Troparion:

The noble Jospeh, took down from the cross Your most pure body, wrapped it in pure linen and anointing it with spices, laid it in a new tomb.

Fr Serge can correct and clarify.


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Originally Posted by Fr. Deacon Lance
Rough translation based on translation of similar antimension...
This seems quite accurate. A bit more literally descriptive (maybe?) would be "Throne" (Prestola) instead of "See" (but See itself is from seat i.e. chair or throne.). The dotted line just above the central icon where the name of the "church" would be inscribed is blank. I'm surprised that the word church (tserkvi) is used here if it refers to a parish. I would have expected chram (house as used to refer to the parish church building, sometimes translated as temple), for instance, tserkvi meaning the eparchy.

Also, the various icons, upper left going clockwise:

Holy (i.e.Saint) John Theologian (Slavonic: Bohoslov)
Holy Apostle (Slavonic: I EV.) and Evangelist Matthew
Holy Basil (the) Great
Holy Apostle (I EV.) and Evangelist Mark
Holy Apostle (I EV.) and Evangelist Luke
Holy John Golden-mouth (Chrysostom; Slavonic: Zlatooust)

Central icon, left to right, in the nimbi:
In the nimbus of Christ, only see the O of O ON
Mother of God (titlo)
Jesus Christ (titlo)
Holy John Theologian
Holy Joseph (the Arimathean)

[In all above, Holy is always written contracted with the titlo.)

Also the dates. I make it, after "Bishop of Nauplia":

from the creation of the World (sotvorenje mira):7476, from the incarnation (voploščénija) of the Lord: 1968 of day 17 of month: SEP.

At the very end there's a "Y.:......" Is this for the signature (which is at the very bottom right)?

The date, I suspect, is for the Julian calendar; on the Gregorian then, September, 30 1968.





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I do know that Bishop Andrei used relics of the Apostle Andrew almost exclusively when consecrating antimins. He also used chrism acquired in Rome from various visiting hierarchs. Vladyka mixed the chrism he collected as a sign of unity.

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Daniel,

Are you the same Daniel of Reliquias Sagradas para Costa Rica [reliquiascr.com]?

I see that there is an article about antimensions [reliquiascr.com] on that site. A different antimension is shown. Does your parish have more than one?

God bless,

Griego Catolico


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I remember having seen online a priest owning another antimension consecrated by Bishop Katkoff.
I found it!
Here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/relicpilgrimage/2391358430/


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