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I'm very sorry, J, but I have to ask this and I know that it is not going to sound very nice, so I apologize in advance for any offense.

The only time I have encountered anyone who needs to have everything spelled out for them down to the most minute detail have been people for whom English is a second language, very young students and individuals with learning disabilities. It would help to know if you have some particular cognitive or perceptual difficulty that makes it hard for you to track on this discussion. If such is the case I can take a very different approach in expressing myself and maybe that would make this discussion more productive. As it is, though, all I seem to be getting from you are repeated requests to explain my explanations.

I typically express myself at about the level of the first or second year of College. I rarely have trouble being understood and most people track on my examples,similes and metaphors just fine. To be perfectly honest, I can't tell if you are truly having trouble understanding, or if you are using these repeated requests for elucidation as a ploy to avoid making constructive contributions of your own. Help?

Best Wishes,

Bruce

Bruce, all my work is done at the post-grad/doctoral level. I understand you all too well, so maybe the problem is your arguments don't make too much sense, either logically, philosophically, morally and theologically. There's no need to act condescending to people who just might be a lot smarter than you are. That's my job.

"Track" is a verb. "Fine" is an adjective, but this phrase wants for an adverb. I suggest "well" or "adequately" and the deletion of "just". I wouldn't usually point it out, but I am amused by the irony of the context.

Don't be too hard--Bruce just writes like a person who has had a year or two of college. His writing is not nearly as awful as some of the graduate dissertations I've read, but he certainly just as muddled in his thinking.

I'm a high school drop out. But if you're going to suggest that the fellow opposite might have a learning disability, don't make grammatical errors doing it. That is, if you're going to swing it, it really should have both length and girth.

For a high school dropout, you write better than most of the grad students I teach. I guess those sheepskins aren't necessarily worth the $100K you have to pay to get one.

Gentlemen,

I'm going to say it once - and only once - if I read one more post from any of those participating in this thread, on either side of the argument, that even remotely smacks of being a personal or ad hominem or denigrating jab at another poster's education, erudition, intellect, or any other personal characteristic, the thread will be locked!

It's only gotten this far because I neglected reading the thread for a couple of days - having tired of repetitious, circuitous, argumentation that does little but seek to conflate one's point by seemingly citing distinct facts and opinions through the medium of substitution - ethnicity for ethnicity, event for event.

Enough, already!

Many years,

Neil

I appreciate what you have shared, Neil, but that won't be necessary. Fact is that I have been on the INTERNET almost since its inception as PLATO back many decades ago. I have only been on this forum since the 7th of last month and I am already seeing indications of the same attitudes and conditions that I would rather not be around. I am 61 years old and life is much too short to brook these sorts of experiences.

Thank you for your time and attentions.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

Wow! Were you there, Bruce, when Al Gore smote the rock and the Internet popped forth, fully functional and ready to go?

I am very sorry that you seem to view discussions as an opportunity for confrontation and contention. Frankly, I had higher expectations in coming here as this forum came recommended by other Byzantine Catholics.

Judging from the careful approach taken by the management as I registered and made my initial contributions I was quite sure I had found a well-meaning support system and source of information. I am profoundly disappointed in what I have experienced here and would rather not continue to visit here.

Regards.

Actually, ...

Moderator Note: The content of this post has been deleted for blatantly disregarding moderator warnings on the tone and tenor of postings to this thread, as well as for being generally dismissive of the standards of charitable and civil commentary expected of forum members, which have been clearly enunciated on more than one occasion!

Stuart, I strongly recommend that you look in a mrror and cogitate, long and hard, on the application to your own posts of the point you sought to make here as regards postings that seek solely to validate one's own views and being dismissive of others' opinions!

Many years,

Neil

I said it once ... this thread is now closed!