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I was born in New Jersey but am now residing in Kansas. But I was baptised in a Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Church in Philadelphia.
Forgive me again for posting during the Byzantine holy week.
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You know, Im sorry but I completely confused the previous guys qustion. I thought he was asking where I live.
No I read these fasting rules on the back of one of a whole series of leaflets a bought from the Byzantine seminary on the Church. It said that they rules had been relaxed in order to promote a more spiritually minded fast. Of course, I have no problem with these (IM not all that particularly fond of fasting myself). In fact I wish that they would do the same in the Orthodox Church. But being a member of ROCOR, I doubt this will happen for me any time soon.
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In terms of the fasting and abstinence regulations, there are old traditional customs that correspond to what we see in the liturgicon: "meatfare" and "cheesefare", and a lot of folks do the fast in the old way. And don't make a big deal of it for obvious reasons.
For some reason, perhaps under the influence of "abstinence from meat (on Friday)" being a 'confession item' in the RC Church, the obligation "under sin" to abstain was mitigated to only the first day of Great Lent and Great Friday. Thus, our people wouldn't have to confess their violation of the rules on abstinence during the Great Lent.
I think it was very pastoral of those folks who changed the "rule" to make it easier for the people. But I also wonder why it is they got all caught up in this piddly-little stuff as the content for confession, i.e., the 'jot and tittle' attitude rather than the sense of confession as a forgiveness and guidance opportunity?
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Originally posted by Robert K.:
I unfortunate must enquire about the following so that I may properly understand whats going on as regards to Byzantine discipline. From what Ive read, I thought that Byzantine Catholics (At least in America) fasted strictly only on the first day of Lent and Good FRiday and abstained only from meats on all Fridays during this season? I do not mean to seem critical of your discipline, but only curious as to its nature. In rather words, I was under the impression that Byzantine Catholics followed a lighter fast then we Orthodox? BTW, I read the following fasting regulations from a pamplet published by the Pittsburg seminary.
Robert K. Dear Robert, That is the minimum required. However following the traditional fast is appreciated. Meatfare and Cheesefare loose their meanings completely with a reduced fast. And it no longer is "The Great Fast" since we obstain from meat on Wednesday and Fridays that are not feast days anyway! God Bless! IC XC NIKA, -Nik!
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This discussion has certainly "evolved" into a totally different thread.
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May peace be with you all, brothers ans sisters in Christ
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