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#37795 05/31/03 12:18 AM
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I'm not even sure I have the right term--recently I came across a priest who had "dual faculties" or "bi-faculties"--and I am not sure what this means.

(Yes, it would help if I knew the term I was looking to have defined.)

It seemed to have something to do with sanction to celebrate both Eastern & Western Catholic liturgies.

I never got to meet the priest, or I would have asked him. He was a Cistercian monk, so I don't know how this comes to be.

Any ideas?

Neil

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Neil, I am a former BC who "doxed" more than 25 years ago with my family. The next to last priest we had in my former BC parish, now closed, was a Jesuit who had "bi-ritual" faculties, i.e, he could serve in either the Latin or Byzantine Rites. Problem is, he thought more like a Latin, celebrated private Latin Masses in the rectory when there was no congregation on a weekday, and, as likeable as he was, in the end the message was that the Latin Rite was superior to the Byzantine. Example: after my wife and I taught our kids in Religious Ed the BYZANTINE form of the Angelic Salutation, Father came in and said: "Now we'll pray the 'Hail Mary' the correct way." And he went on to use the Latin version of the prayer. IMHO, bi-ritualism can be a real weakness for the BCC when it has Latin bi-ritual priests who only likes to dress up in Byzantine vestments and display a thin veneer of Byzantine spirituality, but who are more committed to the Latin Rite.

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Interesting. Does it ever cut the other way--an BC priest granted RC faculties? I am also curious how this comes about? Does the RC priest just apply?

It just seems an interesting situation to arise.

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Neil, most Byzantine miltary chaplains are expected take on Latin faculties because of the pastoral need. Some Greek Catholic priests also because of teaching in RC schools, being a hospital chaplain, etc. take on Latin faculties.

The priest (Greek or Roman Catholic) petitions to the local bishop of the other church to be accepted for consideration of bi-ritual faculties, but must first have the blessing of their own bishop to do this.

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Neil,

In my Melkite eparchy we have a priest who, because of the size of his parish, has to work outside the church to support himself. He works at a Roman Catholic high school and has bi-ritual faculties. The interesting thing is that he started as a Roman Catholic, changed Ritual Churches to become a Melkite so he could be ordained.

In India nearly all of the Syro-Malabar priests have bi-ritual faculties -- they serve the Latins as well as their own people.

Edward, deacon and sinner

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That is interesting to hear. I was curious if it was just something allowed Latin priests.

I am curious why your pastor changed rites? I am an RC seriously contemplating this, and am always interested to hear stories of people who did it.

Neil

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Neil,

The priest I was talking about is not my pastor. However, my pastor also changed Ritual Churches. Although we've discussed his reasons, that is really for him to address.

Edward, deacon and sinner

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Fair enough. Thanks!


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