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This may help Slavophile.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...arming_theory.html#.T5c7NqulsiM.facebook

This looks like a very good seminar. http://climateconference.heartland.org/

I don't support abortion, I don't support a one child rule, and I don't see anything in the nature of serious scientific research in the matter which presumes that these consequences are hidden agendas. Again, talk about the merits of the rigors of methodologies used in global warming research, pro or con, without politicization, and stop throwing in forgone conclusions,
Paying attention: you start your thread with a disparging view positing "junk science' Like I said, this thread doesn't seem to be about science per se. in the main.

That's because "junk science" ain't science--it's politics masquerading as science. And, if you have not been listening to what the advocates of global warming have been proposing as "solutions" to the "problem", please do not blame me.

If some stuffy professors want to publish papers that say "it's getting hot in here and you're to blame" I won't protest.

But if you think that's what's happened, again I say, you're not paying attention.

But you've hit on it: it isn't about science.

You are right. It isn't about science at all. It's about political leanings and the desire of men to rule over others. More specifically, it's about the right wing Capitalist military industrial complex fearing the loss of even one dollar of profits, and the left wing, abortionist, government should run everything crowd desiring to tear down free enterprise and replace it with Socialism.

Somehow, the Christian faith gets lost in both of these positions.

I find it amusing to see folks defend the anti-climate change idea from "science" when all the think tanks that "debunk" climate change are heavily funded by Exxon Mobil.

Methinks I smell a rat in the woodwork. I would be a lot more likely to believe the "scientific climage change debunking" if they didn't have their hands held open, palms up behind them, receiving massive funding from oil companies!!

I also find it strange that people on the conservative right don't realize something about their "records" and record keeping. The world has only seen the Industrial Revolution for about 120 or so years. Anything prior to this is based on limited pollution and putting of toxins into the atmosphere. Nothing like what we are doing today. The earth is a closed system. Yet every year we are pumping more and more chemicals into the system. While the system is self-cleaning, how come people don't stop to consider that there may just be such a thing as overwhelming it beyond its capacity to self-regulate and correct?

Quite frankly, I find Catholics who listen to and drool over the likes of Rush Limbaugh, who is an unashamed proponent of Capitalism and the evils that go with it, as well as Catholics who listen to and drool over left wing rantings, to be acting against their own best interest as spiritual beings and Christians.

I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I am smart enough to know that A.) you can't pump a continuous stream of toxins into a closed system without that system responding in a negative way B.) this whole thing is agenda driven from the left and right C.) both sides are quite capable of (and have in the past) lying to get what they want. They don't care about the consequences, only about either protecting Big Oil and Capitalism, or promoting Socialism and a One World Government.

And in the end, we will all wind up suffering as the truth goes unfound and uncared for by those with an agenda to fill.

Oh, please. Let's drop the cliches. They are no substitute for reasoned discourse.

You would do us a great favor if you could prove this. It would also be helpful if you could demonstrate that I or anyone else on this forum were drooling over Rush Limbaugh. You don't seem to have much faith in your brothers here.

Quite disappointing.

BTW I was wondering if you think the Weather Channel is controlled by or even supported by Exxon Mobile? TS Eliot tried to get us to as much as possible judge literature on the basis of integrity and truth and not upon the biographies of the persons who wrote the literature. It's a transferable principle. Even if it could be demonstrated that Exxon-Mobile owned the many scientists who have the courage to challenge this nonsense you still would not have demonstrated that their challenge was unworthy or based upon falsehoods.

Irish, You kind of jumped the shark when you got to Exxon. The first paragraph I like. I never minded a good cliche.

I think St. Albert the Great would approve of what Tennessee lawmakers did here:

http://junkscience.com/2012/04/26/w...-to-teach-uncertainty-in-science-result/

ooo,ooo,ooo, another good article. I like the comments as well.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/04/26/global-warming-half-politics-half-religion/#.T5kwr2G38sY.facebook

The problem with Junk Science is that it is part of the Evangelical wing of the new religion of Secularism financed by what is called "Statism". As such opposing it is a serious religious matter. I continue my search to discover what if anything the Church has officially said about it.

Carson --

Get to your keyboard and do some research. Read Common Dreams to get some balance. Listen to some left wingers, even if you don't agree with their abortionist and homosexual loving views (which, as a good Catholic, I don't either).

Right winger politicos are terrible liars. They play us Christians by constantly claiming they are "pro-life" and when they get elected, they do NOTHING to attack Roe v. Wade. We are being used by them.

Here. I did your work for you:

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/maps.php

Click on the tab that says "Skip Intro" and it will take you to the maps that show the connections. If you don't think this is a country that is by the rich, of the rich, and for the rich, my brother, you are living in la la land.

A Catholic should not have 100% allegiance to either side of the political aisle. Neither party represents our Catholic thinking or interests. It is beyond time that Catholics realize this and start a Catholic political party. Somewhere we can go and really vote our conscience instead of holding our noses when we pull the voting lever.

Not a cliche. We are a country of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich. Willful ignorance of these facts as demonstrated by history, both past and current, does not change these facts. The most recent obvious example is the 2008 economic meltdown. Perhaps you would like to give me another explanation of why the criminals on Wall Street who made this happen are still walking around free and getting bonuses.

Dwight D. Eisehhower warned this country about the military/industrial complex in his speech when he left the White House. Was he using cliches also?