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#38161 12/04/02 01:42 PM
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As we approach the feast of St. Nicholas (for those of us on the Gregorian calender that is), I've been thinking a lot about his life and ministry. One question that keeps coming up in my mind is why he is so popular in the Churches of the Slavic lands, both Catholic and Orthodox? Can anyone enlighten me? Don

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Bless me a sinner, Father Don!

An excellent question!

The cult of St Nicholas in the East goes back a long way.

The Eastern Church has a rule of thumb that says every iconostasis ought to have the icon of St Nicholas.

He is to the East what St Francis is to the West.

And he is especially venerated for his great charity, his being a pillar of Orthodoxy and his thaumaturgical/miraculous intercession.

His life was actually only written several centuries after his death which is why so much legend is associated with him.

The story of his bringing money to three girls destined for the brothels by their father, that of saving unjustly tried soldiers from execution and that of saving three children from death - all these speak to his great love and compassion for the poor. He is a patron of children and of animals like wolves and dogs especially.

Stand on the tail of a wolf on St Nicholas' Day - and he won't bite you. (I wouldn't try it though - wolves will tend to run away from you).

He used up most of his treasury in helping the poor and gave them gifts incognito. The father knew it was Nicholas who brought the money at night but when he confronted Nicholas, Nicholas simply looked at him and refused to admit it.

Nicholas' great compassion extended to his intercession. He is patron of the sea and of sailors as he who protects during storms and from drowning.

The Ukrainian miraculous icon of "St Nicholas the Drenched" in St Sophia in Kyiv is about a boy who fell into the river and was presumed drowned. The next morning they found the boy alive and asleep at the foot of St Nicholas' icon, both the boy and the icon were drenched . . .

Nicholas is also known to be a great protector of cities (St Nicholas of Zaraisk where he is portrayed with a soldier's sword etc.).

Nicholas was present at the First Ecumenical Council and struck Arius in the face for blasphemy.

He defended Orthodoxy with more than his mouth!

He was summarily punished by the Fathers of the Council for behaviour unbecoming a bishop and had his mantle and Gospel taken from him.

Immediately, the Fathers had a vision where they saw Our Lord and His Mother on either side of Nicholas extending the mantle and Gospel to him.

This miraculous vision is celebrated in many icons of St Nicholas and is commemorated on his December feast.

St Nicholas was a great Thaumaturge and his relics STILL exude myrrh at his shrine in Bari which is collected and distributed to Churches.

The Italians even venerate the decorated jars in which the "Manna of St Nicholas" was kept!

I once drank some of this diluted Manna - it was clear and colourless and yet tasted exactly like rich milk - and cured me of an illness I was then suffering.

Our icon of St Nicholas in my parish church celebrates his charity and defense of Orthodoxy by having St John the Merciful on one side of Nicholas and St Gregory the Theologian on the other.

He is a patron of Ukraine and of the sea exploits of the Kozaks.

The familiarity with which our people love St Nicholas is shown in the way they name his two feast days - the one in December is that of "Cold Nicholas" and the one, the translation of his relics, in May is that of "Warm Nicholas."

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Is it true that the Vtican has "unsainted" St. Nicholas? If so then why? It seems illogical to me for Rome to, at one hand, be promoting unity with the Orthodox, and on the other hand, dispossing of such a beloved eastern saint.

In Christ, and St. Nicholas.

Robert K.

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Originally posted by Robert K.:
Is it true that the Vatican has "unsainted" St. Nicholas?
Don't worry! What you have heard is not true. St. Nicholas was indeed a real person and a real bishop (as Alex eloquently described in his homily above). What you may be thinking of is a report a number of years ago in which some theologian disputed the historical accuracy of some of the accounts of his life.

Alex, thank you for the St. Nicholas holy water (from Bari) that you sent last year. I still have some and still anoint myself with it and will do so on St. Nicholas Day.

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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Stand on the tail of a wolf on St Nicholas' Day - and he won't bite you.
Alex should have mentioned, that just like the Holy Light, this only works in accordance to the Old Calendar. Many a man has been injured by trying this on the New Calendar date! wink God Bless!

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Not only in the Churches of the Slavic lands, dear Don, but also in Greece (in the city I live tomorrow at least five churches will celebrate the feast of their patron saint as will do the sailors, the chapels at the harbourds and the Greek Army) and in all the Orthodox countries, as well as in Southern Italy (specially in Bari), Germany, Holland (that is Saint Nicholas who brings the gifts to the children in these countries) in and many Western countries. I suppose that tomorrow, once again, the metropolitan of Myra in Lycia kyrios Chrysostomos (EP) will be at Myra to celebrate the Divine Liturgy in the proto-christian basilica of Saint Nicholas where the empty shrine of the saint Nicholas is venatated. Happy day of Saint Nicholas!!! Many years!!!

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Dear esteemed Administrator,

You are more than welcome!

There is a site for the shrine of St Nicholas of Bari and it is easy to look up with a search engine.

If anyone would like the diluted Myrrh of St Nicholas, they can ask for it directly of the director of the Shrine (which also has an Orthodox Shrine as well as RCC).

I don't have any more of this to give to anyone else.

You have to be an Administrator to get it from me directly smile smile

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Dear Nik,

You could very well be right, Big Guy!

At Glastonbury in England there is the special hawthorn (is it?) that was said to have been planted their by St Joseph of Arimathea when he stuck his hawthorne wood staff into the ground and it blossomed.

A cutting is taken from this bush each year and sent to Her Majesty the Queen for Christmas.

The thing is, it still only blossoms on January 6th or thereabouts.

Some Old Calendarists are truly stubborn! wink

Alex

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Dear Robert,

The Administrator is entirely correct!

Rome did not "unsaint" anyone, but it did remove some saints from its universal calendar and "downgraded" them to local observance.

As you know, the Byzantine Church has six grades of liturgical veneration of saints.

St George was downgraded to a local observance for those countries that honour him as their patron (ie. England and Georgia).

Others were given "optional memorials" and other quaint Latin liturgical things I don't pretend to fully understand.

This is not to say that "expunging of saints" hasn't been done before.

Rome reserved to itself the "rite" of expunging saints from the calendars of those Eastern Churches coming under, er, into communion with it smile .

For example, the Ethiopian Catholic Church had its "St Pontius Pilate" expunged.

A few very anti-Latin Orthodox saints were expunged from the calendar of the Russian Church in 1904 - especially St Athanasius of Brest who had not a few not nice things to say about the Unia wink .

St Mark of Ephesus is also noticeably absent from the calendar of the Greek Catholic Church - as are the 26 Zographou Martyrs of Athos . . .

The Russian Orthodox "unsainted" two saints for their being apparently implicated in the Old Believers controversy, including one local saint who was canonized by the then Metropolitan Nikon who started the very controversy! St Anna of Kashin was later "re-canonized."

The West established the Shrine to St Philumena and then had it dismantled when it was proven that the bones in the shrine were not only not those of a martyr - but were those of a man.

And politics and saints go very well together.

When John Hus was being widely venerated throughout Bohemia and the central European slavic lands, the RC Church established the cult to one St John Nepomucene Neumann - after whom the sainted Bishop of Philadelphia was named.

Protestant historians maintained that his cult was established by the Jesuits ONLY to counter that of Hus.

In 1963, the RC Church degraded St John's universal cult to a local one only.

There was doubt cast about whether he ever even existed.

It is practically impossible to totally wipe out a saint's cult.

In the fourth century there lived a saint named after the devil - Saint Lucifer of Cagliari.

He opposed St Hilary on the question of reception of Catholics who had lapsed during the persecution. He felt that such should never be taken back by the Church.

He was excommunicated and apparently died excommunicated on Sardinia - where his cult as a saint grew anyway, with churches and shrines to him.

The pope then declared him to be a local saint of Sardinia (Vallombrossa) only where it remains to this day.

In the Orthodox Church, local saints have greater flexibility to grown into national and international saints.

St Matrona of Moscow is a local saint of the Diocese of Moscow only, but she is so extremely popular that people want her icon and akafist from all over.

Anyway, I've said enough, don't you think? wink

Alex

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Thanks for all of the great info! As always, you didn't let me down! Triple Ukie kisses to everyone who posted! Don

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O kto, kto, Nikolaya lyubit...

What a picture, St. Nicholas decking Arius at the First Ecumenical Council at Nicea. The imperial guards had to pull him off of Arius and throw him in jail.

He loved all and was famous in his generosity, but was ready to act against the unjust when necessary. If only we had such bishops today who would act decisively when the divinity of our Lord is being denied.

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Originally posted by Diak:
O kto, kto, Nikolaya lyubit...

What a picture, St. Nicholas decking Arius at the First Ecumenical Council at Nicea
Diak, you reminded me of the "lost verse" of "O kto kto" ...

Arius, heretic most-hated,
he said that Jesus was created.
Seeing that he fell from grace
Nicholas punched him in the face.
Holy Father Nicholas!


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