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Thomas. The links do not work, well at least not on my browser. The first one that you sent did work however. Viking
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I just cleared my cache and retested each link--working just fine on a Direcway sattelite connection running Classilla 9.3.0--yes, I'm one of those classic Mac Luddites.
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This whole thing is just stupid. Anyone who would rush into any religious building for any reason and interrupt any sort of gathering simple lacks manners and even a shred of decency. No religion would tolerate this stuff, if this happened in Saudi Arabia, no one would bat an eye, because the regime would just do what it always does.
As for Putin, from what I see, he "appears" to be a dictator. I can't say first hand, I don't live in Russia. But is anyone surprised by that? Russia has always had supreme authority figures. Think back to the old Russian saying "Orthodoxy, Autocracy, Nationality." Orthodoxy is the Russian way, autocracy is the way of their political system, it always has been. The main Russian ethnicity has ruled Russia for ages (if you discount the whole Mongol episode). What do a bunch of feminist musicians think they're going to change? Over 1000 years of Russian autocracy? I don't think so.
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As for Putin, from what I see, he "appears" to be a dictator. I can't say first hand, I don't live in Russia. But is anyone surprised by that? Russia has always had supreme authority figures. Think back to the old Russian saying "Orthodoxy, Autocracy, Nationality." Orthodoxy is the Russian way, autocracy is the way of their political system, it always has been. The main Russian ethnicity has ruled Russia for ages (if you discount the whole Mongol episode). What do a bunch of feminist musicians think they're going to change? Over 1000 years of Russian autocracy? I don't think so. A good example of the soft bigotry of low expectations. "They're just Russians--this is what they deserve". Also a startling example of historical illiteracy, but I've given up on that--few people come up to my standards these days.
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Really? Please enlighten me.
At various times, I have been accused on this forum of hating (in no particular order):
The Roman Catholic Church
The Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church
The Orthodox Church (in general)
Bishops (as a group)
The Pope (as a person and as an office)
Russians (as a people)
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All you have to do is read my archived posts.
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Really? Please enlighten me.
At various times, I have been accused on this forum of hating (in no particular order):
The Roman Catholic Church
The Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Church
The Orthodox Church (in general)
Bishops (as a group)
The Pope (as a person and as an office)
Russians (as a people)
Russia (as a nation)
Serbs
Croats
Muslims
Christians
Jews
All you have to do is read my archived posts. So you live to p--- everyone off? Nice. I am starting to feel better about myself, I'm not as cranky as I thought I was. Have a nice day. Viking
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I just cleared my cache and retested each link--working just fine on a Direcway sattelite connection running Classilla 9.3.0--yes, I'm one of those classic Mac Luddites. The links seem to be working on my computer now. The Penquin that runs the shop must have gone out for a break. Viking
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As for Putin, from what I see, he "appears" to be a dictator. I can't say first hand, I don't live in Russia. But is anyone surprised by that? Russia has always had supreme authority figures. Think back to the old Russian saying "Orthodoxy, Autocracy, Nationality." Orthodoxy is the Russian way, autocracy is the way of their political system, it always has been. The main Russian ethnicity has ruled Russia for ages (if you discount the whole Mongol episode). What do a bunch of feminist musicians think they're going to change? Over 1000 years of Russian autocracy? I don't think so. A good example of the soft bigotry of low expectations. "They're just Russians--this is what they deserve". Also a startling example of historical illiteracy, but I've given up on that-- few people come up to my standards these days.  Sorry we don't measure up to your standards Stuart. Actually I think the remarks made hit the nail right on the head. As far as your thoughts regarding "soft bigotry" can you honestly say that you yourself have not indulged in this. Viking
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Regarding this whole mess. Good for the Russian Orthodox Church and good for Putin. Nuts on the nay sayers and Alice I agree
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Actually I think the remarks made hit the nail right on the head. As far as your thoughts regarding "soft bigotry" can you honestly say that you yourself have not indulged in this. Nope. I judge everybody by the same high and exacting standard. That's why so few measure up.
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Stuart, Don't forget hating us crazy Old Calenderist.
Finally some clarity on this forum. The MP is not what you think. Christ wants Lambs not sheeple.
Greetings on this day of the Transfiguration.
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Stuart, Don't forget hating us crazy Old Calenderist. Oh, yeah. I forgot. So when are you guys going to get your Typicon in line with the astronomical year?
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While I agree with Stuart's assessment of the Putin regime and the complicity of the "Third Rome" in its corruption, I hardly think these three young women are Holy Fools. They are, in fact, unbelieving, savvy musical media wonks - nothing holy about their show. Holy Fools prick our conscience. I'm afraid the their message got lost in the revulsion most believers felt by their choice of venue. Putin and the Patriarch lost, too, by making more of the event than it deserved. A trial? They should have been slapped on the wrist and sent home crying months ago. Naughty girls.
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The idea that this group of women are holy fools defies logic. Last night I watched a news report from Germany about their group and it's recent history. It showed clips of three of their other protests which featured the most debauched types of public group sex, naked exploits and even animals! It was beyond disgusting. Most of their activity is political, the acts in the cathedral seem to be their first public foray into the religious arena. Another indication that they are not holy fools. This group of 10 to 13 women (3 of which participated in the cathedral event) are over-the-top, offensive publicity seekers. I don't mind their 2 year jail sentence at all.
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