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Okay, I have passed the next hurdle of making solemn profession with the Carmelites. The previous hurdle was the novitate which required the approval of the Apostolic See according to Canon 517, 2, of the CCEO. Canon 517
1. One is admitted validly to the novitiate of an order or congregation who has completed the seventeenth year of age. In respect to other requirements for admission to the novitiate cann. 448, 450, 452, and 454 shall be observed. 2. No one is admitted lawfully to the novitiate of a religious institute of another Church sui iuris without the permission of the Apostolic See, unless it is a candidate who is destined for a province or house, mentioned in can. 432, of the same Church. Received the permission. Can anyone help me find the canons that would apply for ordination. It is my understanding that the same permission will be required if my superiors wish to have me ordained in the Latin rite. My preference is to be ordained in my rite but I what/need to provide all the pertinent information to my superiors. Thanks for any help. Br David, O.Carm.
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The Latin Code makes reference to this issue: Can. 1019 §1. The major superior of a clerical religious institute of pontifical right or of a clerical society of apostolic life of pontifical right is competent to grant dimissorial letters for the diaconate and the presbyterate to their subjects who are enrolled perpetually or defin-itively in the institute or society according to their constitutions.
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Can. 1021 Dimissorial letters can be sent to any bishop in communion with the Apostolic See except to a bishop of a rite different from the rite of the candidate unless there is an apostolic indult.
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These canons only state that my superior is my ordinary and that he provides a letter to a bishop for ordination.
This does not deal with the rite issue.
It is my understanding that one is to be ordained within their rite unless a dispensation is granted by the Apostolic See.
I am a Byzantine Ruthenian Catholic who is in solemn vows with the Carmelites, a Roman Catholic religious order with no (currently) eastern foundations.
To be ordained in the Latin rite (which my superiors might want) they need permission. I am looking for the canons on this.
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Br. David, I think Can. 1021 does apply to your situation? Your superior provides the dimissorial letters. But Canon 1021 says that it is to be sent to "any bishop in communion with the Apostolic See except to a bishop of a rite different from the rite of the candidate unless there is an apostolic indult" that is, it must be sent to a bishop of the rite of the candidate unless there is an apostolic indult. Beal, et al., in their commentary gloss this: “With correctly issued dimissorial in hand, any bishop in union with Rome may ordain a man presented him, provided that the bishop belongs to the same ritual church as the candidate he is to ordain. If the two are not of the same sui iuris church, an apostolic indult is required before ordination may proceed. Without an apostolic indult (c. 1015, §2), a Latin rite bishop may not licitly ordain an Eastern rite candidate. Eastern code canon 747 affirms that a candidate to the diaconate or presbyterate should be ordained by his own eparchial bishop, or by another bishop who is in possession of authentic, legitimate dimissorial letters." There's a similar canon in the CCEO: Canon 752: Dimissorial letters can be sent from the proper eparchial bishop to any bishop of the same Church sui iuris; not, however, to a bishop of a Church different than that of the candidate, without the permission of those mentioned in can. 748, 2. Those mentioned in 748 §2 are the Apostolic See and, under certain circumstances, Patriarchs. This is very complicated (and important!) it's probably worth seeking out one of the canonists there in Washington?
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David,
Congrats on your SP, Fr. George Gallaro is the canonist for the Archeparchy. He would be glad to answer any of your "Rite" questions. His e-mail is gdgallaro@bcs.edu .
In Carmel,
Jim Hess
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