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In our diocese (Catholic Diocese of Cleveland), our bishop has directed parishioners to follow the official teaching of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (NOT any political party's "Catholic" lay organization) as outlined in its publication, FORMING CONSCIENCES FOR FAITHFUL CITIZENSHIP, which states:

34. Catholics often face difficult choices about how to vote. This is why it is so important to vote according to a well-formed conscience that perceives the proper relationship among moral goods. A Catholic cannot vote for a candidate who takes a position in favor of an intrinsic evil, such as abortion or racism, IF the voter’s intent is to support that position. In such cases a Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in grave evil. At the same time, a voter should NOT use a candidate’s opposition to an intrinsic evil to justify indifference or inattentiveness to other important moral issues involving human life and dignity.

35. There may be times when a Catholic who rejects a candidate’s unacceptable position MAY decide to vote for that candidate for other morally grave reasons. Voting in this way would be permissible only for truly grave moral reasons, not to advance narrow interests or partisan preferences or to ignore a fundamental moral evil.

Fortunately for them, this year is a true no-brainer.

Otsheylnik,

I tried to post this at a more appropriate time but it looks like it did not take (or the moderator removed it)

The United States is superior to Australia in Sailing - at least for now - that is one area you did not mention.

Yes, I was fortunate enough to follow this code through both the Diocese of Cleveland as well as through the Eparchy of Parma in terms of what to follow in the voting guidelines.


Hehe. Yeah, no kidding. Let's hope he can bounce in the lead in the polls after tonight's debate. Go Romney!

Not only sailing, they also beat us in basketball at the Olympics most years

Well, 45 minutes from this post until the next debate. What's everyone's thought, and what do you think, from this upcoming debate, do you think we should hear that will ultimately win the Catholic vote based upon the records of both candidates?

I thought Romney totally did't want to speak on social issues; his position was weak. On the other hand, the President's was simply dictatorial. He said he believes in sexual equality; then he panders to women. Hypocrite!

Eh, yeah, I don't think I heard much at all that would make any candidate better than last debate. Here's hoping that Monday's debate will be the be all, end all to this, and make sure our position is out there plain for the country to see. Might as well make sure we make sure our message input is with the upcoming moderator (I'm assuming this won't be town-hall style this upcoming time). I'm praying that we will indeed get our answers from these two.

Watch out; the next debate is on foreign policy issues. Romney is a McCain clone. For some weird reason they seem to miss the Cold War and want to bring it back.

On the other hand, we have the President, who wants America to join in every revolution around the world and provide weapons to groups who will use them against us in the future.

Yoi! I miss Ron Paul.

The cold war was a brief distraction from the nearly millenial struggle against Islamic jihadists.

Unfortunately, the US was so preoccupied during those years that we were oblivious to the ancient and ongoing threat.

Well, I'm sure Romney dealt with foreign policy through Bain Capital already, since it IS a global company. Let's see what policies from his experience there will hold true in his plans during the debate.

Everything you need to know about foreign policy and international relations, you can learn on the playground by fourth grade.

Otsheylnik,

You guys destroy us in Autrailian Rules Football so ...

Well, considering that Mitt has a 7-point-lead according to last night's reports, the goal is to help him at least maintain that lead, if not widen it into the double digits. Now how are we going to do that?

The Democrats are hoping for heavy turnout in the Post-Mortem American community.