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#388110 11/13/12 03:28 PM
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John - Nice article and photo, my friend! (if I can say so, though, you look Irish enough to be my brother biggrin )

Many years,

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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Excellent article!
Could someone please explain why the Church is named the CarpathoRUSSIAN Church rather than the Rusyn Church? Is it another example of confused identity?

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Originally Posted by Pavloosh
Excellent article!
Could someone please explain why the Church is named the CarpathoRUSSIAN Church rather than the Rusyn Church? Is it another example of confused identity?

Do you have a few days? I will find some links regarding this rather than attempt to distill decades of 'discussion.'

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I think this topic has been mentioned once or fifty times on this forum...

It is not a matter of confused identity. The founders of the American Carpatho-Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Diocese knew who they were. They held the nuanced view that they were a distinct branch of the "Russian" family, which also included "Great" Russians, "Little" Russians and "White" Russians. They were suspicious of the term "Rusin" as the sole ethnic identifier, since they considered it a means of distancing the Carpatho-Russians from the "other" Russians, and thus from the Orthodox Church. (They didn't have any problem with using it in speaking, or in songs and poetry--they all knew how to sing "Ja Rusyn byl"!)

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Well said!

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Well, some call it Carpatho-Russian, some Carpatho-Rusyn, some call it, like me, Carpatho-Ruthenian, but ragardless what you call it, it does refer to both the Byzantine Catholic and the ACROD Churches.

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Well, is it any wonder then that when a parishioner discusses his ancestry, he/she claims it's Russian. How unfortunate!

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Heh. Well, I know that here in the Cleveland/Akron area, most CRs identify themselves as Slovaks or Hungarians, mainly. Although I'm sure that the CRs that identify themselves as being Ukrainian wind up joining the UGCC instead of the BCC.

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Not so in Northeastern Pennsylvania. If you're CR, you're "Russian".
So many are sadly misinformed.

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Not biting.

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Originally Posted by Pavloosh
Well, is it any wonder then that when a parishioner discusses his ancestry, he/she claims it's Russian. How unfortunate!
Why's that?


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