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I found an article posted today on Fr. Serge of blessed memory. It was published on the RISU English website entitled Serge Keleher, Larger than Life [risu.org.ua] . It was originally posted in the Ukrainian Catholic Church's Patriarchate [patriyarkhat.org.ua] Magazine.

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Fr. Serge Keleher was one of the greatest friends of Ukraine who is not well known in Ukraine. I knew him for nineteen years and I am happy to share my personal impressions of this most remarkable person and priest. He did much to help oppressed believers, (who lived behind an �Iron Curtain�) during an ideological �Cold War� that mocked God and brutalized humanity. First, I will share some of his biographical information and then try to capture the essence of the �larger than life� Fr. Serge.

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Can the bolded part be corroborated? I find it a little hard to believe that Father Serge preferred the Tridentine Mass to the Divine Liturgies.

I don't mean he thought Byzantine was superior to Roman and I can see Father Serge loving and appreciating the traditional Roman rite. However, he went East and lived and was immersed in the Byzantine tradition.

From the article:

Publicly, Fr. Serge offered the Divine Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and Basil. In private, in his latter years, he preferred the Old Latin Rite

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Thank you so much, dear Nelson, for sharing this article about our dear and beloved forum friend of blessed memory, Father Archimandrite Serge.

His wit, intelligence, and friendliness will forever be remembered here--may his memory be eternal in Heaven...

Alice, with tears in her eyes...

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Originally Posted by Anthony
Can the bolded part be corroborated? I find it a little hard to believe that Father Serge preferred the Tridentine Mass to the Divine Liturgies.

I don't mean he thought Byzantine was superior to Roman and I can see Father Serge loving and appreciating the traditional Roman rite. However, he went East and lived and was immersed in the Byzantine tradition.

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Publicly, Fr. Serge offered the Divine Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and Basil. In private, in his latter years, he preferred the Old Latin Rite
I spoke often with Fr. Serge on this issue. It is not that he preferred the Old Latin Rite. It's that he was a stickler for correct celebration. A priest really should not celebrate the Byzantine Divine Liturgy alone (that is, without a congregation of at least one other person). But one can celebrate the Old Latin Rite (currently called the Extraordinary Form) alone. And it more easily lends to a simpler celebration. He simply found it easier to celebrate it in his home chapel, while always celebrating the Byzantine Divine Liturgy (and other Divine Services) with his Dublin parish.

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A number of people have told me that Father Keleher wrote a fantastic review of the Ruthenian Revised Divine Liturgy. Where can I get a copy? I could not find it on amazon.com.

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Publicly, Fr. Serge offered the Divine Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom and Basil. In private, in his latter years, he preferred the Old Latin Rite
Maybe the author was confused - mind you I didn't know Fr. Serge of blessed memory personally - only through ByzCath, but he did have a preference for the Old Russian Rite. Please correct me if I am mistaken?

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Father Serge, Ukrainian Greek Catholic that he was, had great fondness for the pre-Nikonian rite used by the Kyivan Church.

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Anthony and Michael,

In addition to what John posted above, I think it's safe to also interpret Padraig's remark as meaning that - in considering the Mass served according to the Latin Rite - Father Serge's preference would have been the 'Old' Latin Rite versus that of the Novus Ordo.

Nelson,

Thanks for posting this.

May the memory of our beloved friend and the Lord's servant, Father Archimandrite Serge, be eternal and thrice-blessed.

Many years,

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Originally Posted by Fr. Deacon Lance
This is terrific! I printed it and have already read several sections. If only the Ruthenian bishops would follow their own liturgical books instead of liberal politics!

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Nelson,

Thanks for posting this.

May the memory of our beloved friend and the Lord's servant, Father Archimandrite Serge, be eternal and thrice-blessed.

Many years,

You're welcome, Neil.

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I can see this being the case. However, I'd prefer the Traditional Latin Rite myself, but with the New Roman Missal translations, that led me to return to the Byzantine Rite, and proud of that decision. I'm sure if I was in Fr. Serge's shoes, he'd probably be thinking the same thing.

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Is Fr. Serge's book on the Ruthenian "reform" available for purchase anywhere in printed form?

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Originally Posted by Joe in Slavland
Originally Posted by Fr. Deacon Lance
This is terrific! I printed it and have already read several sections. If only the Ruthenian bishops would follow their own liturgical books instead of liberal politics!

LOL. Agreed. Although Fr. James Batcha at Holy Spirit Parish certainly seems to preach about how secularity gets in the way of everything, so we know he's quite the conservative, and standing up for what will evangelize and pre-assemble the faith, as he calls it. Now I just wish there'd be books in terms of how to evangelize, and remain faithful to God's word in a heavily secular society such as we are living in.

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I finished the whole book last night. Father Keleher was full of common sense. How could the bishops not see the silliness of their revisions?

Here's a quiz (choose one):

A) If you celebrate the liturgy correctly and with tradition the people like it and will come. The churches will be full.

B) If you revise the liturgy and celebrate it incorrectly the people won't like it and will not come. The churches will be empty.

The logical choice is "A".
The bishops chose "B".

OK, they are in charge and got what they wanted. None of this is rocket science. It seems pretty clear that they want empty churches. I mean, they could have changed courses once they saw that they were chasing people away.

Father Keleher, pray for us!

[Yeah, yeah, I know. Bishop Kudrick says the people who are unwilling to be obedient and embrace change should leave so they don't hold back everyone else. crazy ]

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