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#392982 03/31/13 11:37 PM
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There is a plan underway to celebrate the DL at a local RC parish. I think it useful to provide leaflets to the people in the pews, most of whom have no experience of the Divine Liturgy, to follow along without trying to figure out where they are because we omit some portion or flipping forward or backward to find the Tropars, or whatever.

I cannot find an online version of the English translation used by the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church. In fact, most places I find say there is none. I don't like to think of retyping it all.

Is anyone aware of a place to find the current UGCC English translation online? Alternately, does anyone have a text document, pdf, etc, that he might be willing to email to me?

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There is currently no on-line version. I do have a hard copy of the Divine Liturgy in an English and phonetically transliterated Ukrainian (with Latin letters) booklet form that I could send to make additional copies. You can PM me any mailing details.

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Well...the Divine Liturgy Anthology of Worship books are readily available at the Sisters of St. Basil online store, but those are $60 a book, though, so I'm not sure if you were ready to pony up a lot of dough to buy that many. The sad thing with those is even though they do have the current English Language Divine Liturgy, the Ukrainian is Cyrillicized, which might not be the best for you. I'm certainly willing to trade that up with a Phonetically Transliterated book for sure. After all, much like the Ruthenian Divine Liturgy which does have transliterated Church Slavonic, and much easier to follow along because of it, it would be worth having the same treatment with the UGCC DL as well.

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You can also obtain pew books containing the UGCC Synodal Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom (text without music) for clergy, deacon, and choir parts from several sources including the Basilian Press in Toronto and Byzantine Church Supplies in Philadelphia. These generally run about $5-8 apiece.

Celebrating any liturgical service in the Constantinopolitan tradition without multiple text sources and flipping around is essentially impossible, and having an experienced cantor is invaluable.

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We also have a short booklet (it's in English only) that we give to guests. The text is from the UGCC anthology and it has everything except the changeable parts such as the tones. I think it's about 20 pages total (10 pages front and back). If you send me a PM I'll ask around on Sunday to see if we have an electronic version we can send you. Worst case scenario I could mail you a copy and you could pull it apart and run it through a copy machine.

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There are two separate sections of musical settings from the Anthology, Simple/Weekday and Sunday/Festal. Both are for the Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, and if it is a situation with a group of people fairly unfamiliar with the texts and music you may want to go with the simpler settings. I have both of those in separate booklet forms that could be photocopied, English only.

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Yes, you're right. Thank you for reminding me. Do yours have the music and the text or are they text only?

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For transliterated Ukrainian/English side-by-side, I have a text-only booklet. But for the two Divine Liturgy settings, I have one booklet each for the Sunday/Festal and Simple with music.

While the Simple setting is perhaps easier to sing in some parts, the melodies are generally less well known than the Sunday/Festal setting for most Ukrainian Greek Catholics. Actually if you are looking at having primarily Sunday and feast day Divine Liturgies, the Sunday/Festal would be preferable once the cantor was familiar with the melodies.

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Thanks guys. This is a one time thing. I'm starting to think maybe I'll just retype the whole text. I have the pew book, so I'll scan it and run text recognition and then clean up the result. That way, I'll be able to insert the relevant changing parts so people can follow. If anybody happens upon a digital copy of the text, I'd be happy to know.

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For transliterated Ukrainian/English side-by-side, I have a text-only booklet. But for the two Divine Liturgy settings, I have one booklet each for the Sunday/Festal and Simple with music.

While the Simple setting is perhaps easier to sing in some parts, the melodies are generally less well known than the Sunday/Festal setting for most Ukrainian Greek Catholics. Actually if you are looking at having primarily Sunday and feast day Divine Liturgies, the Sunday/Festal would be preferable once the cantor was familiar with the melodies.

Yeah, that probably explains why St. Josaphat Cathedral recites half the DLs (at least for the ones that don't have the choir), because of all the different chants/melodies. Imo, it just seems like the Ruthenian Prostopinije settings are still by far the easiest for congregational singing. At least in the Ruthenian Church, you only have four settings, one for general Divine Liturgies of St. John Chrysostom, one for the Liturgy of St. Basil (although that only is during the Anaphora), one for Great Lent/Presanctified DLs, then one for Panachida/Parakstas.

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I just sent you a PM.

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I asked Fr. Ted today and he does have a digital copy we can send you. It's the English text without the musical settings. If you send me a PM with your email address I'll try to get it to you tomorrow.

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That's exactly what I need. PM sent.

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Garinion, text with music sent as requested, you will have to unstaple to make additional copies and give Fr. Ted my best.

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