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Magyar is a Hungarian word, it is what they call themselves. Some Ukrainians and Carpatho Russians were involuntarily heavily Magyarized and picked up a lot of Hungarian words in their vocabulary. Just like the Magyarized will call Uzhgorod, Ungvar. In proper Ukrainian, the word is Yгорці, in Carpatho Russian, Bенгры. But the street term is either Варвары or турки. Betcha you didn't know you were speaking Magyar and not Ukie? The history of the Slovaks, Carpatho Russians and Western Ukrainians under the Hunnic fist is one of ethnic cleansing, genocide and fierce anti Slavic/Orthodox persecution.

First off, let's get a couple of things straight. There is no such thing as a "Ruthenian". Ruthenian is a Latin word for the Eastern Slavs, whether Carpatho Russian, Ukrainian or non-Muscovite Russian. No Slav with a cross around his neck would call himself a Ruthenian. When in doubt, the word "Rus" is appropriate.
Slovaks are a western Slavic people, not eastern, and are predominantly Roman Catholic. The Slovaks were heavily Magyarized almost to the brink of extinction, and it is only now, 100 years later that they are starting to restore that which was stolen from them. But they are not Eastern.Our concerns are with Eastern Slavs.
If one was to pick a center of Slavic Culture, I'm sorry, but Presov and Kuzmice wouldn't make the list. One would look at Kiev, Novgorod the Great, Suzdal, Vladimir Velike, or Moscow.

Well, if they were once the barbarians, it seems the tables have turned.
I say God bless Hungary!

A Ruthenian is a citizen of Ruthenia, a magical kingdom located west of Ukraine, east of Slovakia, north of Hungary and south of Poland; it appears once every 1900 years, like a kind of Slavic Brigadoon, only to be reabsorbed by the Czechs, Poles, Magyars and Ukies when the sun rises.

I agree that the Government of Hungary has taken some positive action in affirming that Hungary remains Christian. Let's pray that they won't have to pay too heavy of a price with the EU.

Ja Rusyn byl,Jiesm' y budu!

A panakhida for the Rus victims and martyrs of the Magyars at Talerhof.

And for those who speak a Slavic tongue, a good documentary on the Magyar atrocities against the Orthodox.

This sounds like the Holy Order of Manns. But, I hear there is plenty of property in Waco Tx. if you are really pushing the idea.

Where is this village going to be? And how many people are committed to it? Is it a real plan already, or still in the pipe dream phase?

The idea of Byzantine Village is just a discussion at this point. Over the past 17 years the Forum has been in existence there have been a number of "Wouldn't it be nice if?" discussions, with ideas ranging from a "St. Nicholas Community" in Wyoming to other places across the United States.

The current discussion is sort of the latest round. It appears to have started when a few of us, off the board, had been discussing the possibilities that, if some of us were eventually to relocate, it would be nice for us to investigate all relocating to the same place. This led to further discussions (Do we simply find a geographical area we all like and all move to the same zip code or neighborhood? Do we buy a plot of land somewhere and divide it up so we could be neighbors? Do we find a place with a parish (Greek Catholic? Orthodox? Both?)? Etc.). The various answers have been very disparate. Each interested individual appears to prefer his own part of the country (which is perfectly understandable). Some want suburbia. Some want rural (10 miles from the nearest town of 50). So, no progress. And not really that much interest.

Christ is Risen!!

Having been attached to a pager, cellphone, and answering service for the bulk of my life, being somewhere "off the grid" for retirement has a certain allure to it. Not seeing the nightly news with the latest bombing or other act of man's inhumanity to his fellow man also seems to be something to consider.

Bob

Cities have their benefits. I enjoy San Diego for its weather and its cultural entertainments. But cities also seem to be a breeding ground for social and spiritual chaos.

IMHO, from studying history, a key characteristic of a Free People is the capability of self-sustenance. The ability to feed oneself is a primary act of Freedom, and Freedom is found in the plow-lands and gardens. If we don't conserve farmland and open space, what will become of us, as communities and a republic, if one day our only hope is to regain our knowledge of farming for survival? And then there is no land because it is all parking lots and strip malls.

History is cyclial, and some day this country will shatter. Only the Word of God stands forever; the kingdoms of men disappear- look at Rome, look at Britain. And when that time comes, I want to be able to take care of myself and my family, while also participating as a member of a healthy local community.

God gave us this land, replete with its fertile soil and life-sustaining ecosystems. Let's not waste it.

Well, you do have to admit, though, BenjaminRH, at least San Diego does have consistent weather throughout much of the year. I guess you could say that with Holy Angels BCC there, and the 72 degrees and sunshine almost everyday, it might as well be Heaven on Earth once we've established something there.

I was thinking about this today while cutting the grass. Wouldn't it be nice to:

l Have a divine liturgy for each and every holy day.
2 Live in a place where people shared common customs and values.
3 Share feasts and fasts.
4 Not explain why your "Lent" begin on Monday.
5 Have married clergy. (No explanation necessary.)
6 Old Slavonic is not a dead language.
7 Native languages and cultures are treasured.
8 Old Christmas customs are revived and encouraged.