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Well, that's a disappointment and shame. What's this? To address an epistle to the clergymen and communities of the Western Rite regarding the need for them to adopt the order of divine services of the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church, while preserving, when necessary, certain particularities of the Western Rite. If you are switching to Eastern rite, what "particularities of the Western rite" are you supposed to bring with. I wonder, can they be released to Antioch?
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This seems interesting, but I am not familiar with the circumstances. Can someone break down the background of this, and what is important to understand about it?
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I always wondered what was the point of a western rite. If they wanted to be Orthodox, then be it.
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I always wondered what was the point of a western rite. If they wanted to be Orthodox, then be it. They want to be Orthodox. They don't have to want or be Eastern.
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They want to be Orthodox. They don't have to want or be Eastern. Uh, kinda like Rusyns and stuff who want to be Catholic without being Western? Can we assume we have therefore heard the last of you griping about Brest etc?
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They want to be Orthodox. They don't have to want or be Eastern. Uh, kinda like Rusyns and stuff who want to be Catholic without being Western? Can we assume we have therefore heard the last of you griping about Brest etc? not until you can cough up the Eastern Sigismund, and show how the liturgical books have been changed to show the adoption of the West's Scholastic theology (like taking the epiclesis out and putting the filioque in)-you know, the things that are supposedly a no no now.
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They want to be Orthodox. They don't have to want or be Eastern. Uh, kinda like Rusyns and stuff who want to be Catholic without being Western? Can we assume we have therefore heard the last of you griping about Brest etc? not until you can cough up the Eastern Sigismund, and show how the liturgical books have been changed to show the adoption of the West's Scholastic theology (like taking the epiclesis out and putting the filioque in)-you know, the things that are supposedly a no no now. That's a bit scattered, isn't it, as justifications go? That it's voluntary? As if centuries of membership is coerced, or that a lot of Anglicans just woke up one day and thought "to Antioch!" of pure doctrinal conviction, rather than being chased out of their own religion, and joining whoever would take them and leave their hymnody intact. Anyway, never mind; this debate has been had here, and I find the whole thing silly and romantic and lacking a basic understanding of people and why they do things. But I appreciate your consistency.
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They want to be Orthodox. They don't have to want or be Eastern. Uh, kinda like Rusyns and stuff who want to be Catholic without being Western? Can we assume we have therefore heard the last of you griping about Brest etc? not until you can cough up the Eastern Sigismund, and show how the liturgical books have been changed to show the adoption of the West's Scholastic theology (like taking the epiclesis out and putting the filioque in)-you know, the things that are supposedly a no no now. That's a bit scattered, isn't it, as justifications go? No. I like to cover all bases. But I appreciate your consistency. Thanks.
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Well, that's a disappointment and shame. When I read the news, I spend about 5 seconds imagining what you, DMD, and other Orthodox posters would say if our positions were reversed, i.e. if there were a comparable announcement made about Eastern Catholicism.
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I always wondered what was the point of a western rite. If they wanted to be Orthodox, then be it. Is this ^^ post for real? Western-Rite Orthodox are Orthodox.
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Well, that's a disappointment and shame. When I read the news, I spend about 5 seconds imagining what you, DMD, and other Orthodox posters would say if our positions were reversed, i.e. if there were a comparable announcement made about Eastern Catholicism. I'll say it now: the door is always open.
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I hate to disappoint Peter, but not all (more like not any outside of the internet) Orthodox gave ROCOR's "WRO" any thought during its existence, let alone upon its demise. If the Vicariate's webpage is still up, one can see the average "parish" has about ten souls. To partially borrow from Shakespeare, the whole matter is full of sound and fury, signifying little.
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