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"Granting asylum to Snowden to show Russia guards ideals of freedom" - Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplan

http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=10673

Moscow, July 31, Interfax - Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, chairman of the Moscow Patriarchate Department for Church and Society Relations, said he welcomed Russia's stance regarding granting asylum to former CIA employee Edward Snowden.

"It is pleasant that Russia shows independence in this case, as well as in many others, regardless of serious pressure," the priest told the Interfax-Religion correspondent.

The situation with Snowden is a landmark and is very widely discussed in Russia and in the world, and "Russia's image as a country supporting true ideals of freedom depends on how Russia will act in this situation," Father Vsevolod said.

Snowden reminded the world of what many Orthodox Christians have been saying for many years - "the prospect of the global totalitarian electronic regime to appear becomes real," he said.

"First, people are hooked up on convenient communication means with authorities, business and each other, then people find themselves bound to certain services and as a result economic and political owners of these services get huge and awful power over people, they can not but be tempted to use this power to control an individual and such control could be much more strict than all totalitarian systems known in the 20th century," the priest said.

Whatever anyone says, ideal rule of people never existed anywhere and never will, Fr. Vsevolod said.

"Any political system establishes the power of few [people] over many [people] and if in the 20th century the roughest forms of such power worked though brutal enforcement, now they work through soft power, through total information gathering and through 'mild' imposing on a person first via slogans, then via laws of strict ideological sets - such as declaring the western political system as the only possible one, marginalizing the religion, criticizing market fundamentalism, left political ides etc.," the priest said.

In these circumstances, Russia "could quite possibly be urged to protect real freedom, freedom from global ideological dictatorship, from electronic concentration camp," he said.

In order to do this, it is probably worth developing a system of electronic communications, national and possibly global one, independent from existing global centers, the church representative said. "The country has brains for this, there will be the will as well, I hope," he said.


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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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"If these reports are accurate, Americans in Washington should consider this a game changer in our relationship with Russia," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said in a statement, calling Russia's decision "provocative" and "a sign of Vladimir Putin's clear lack of respect for President Obama." Graham called for the U.S. government to meet the decision with a "firm response," which he did not describe.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., called it a "slap in the face of all Americans."

read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...tatus/?cmpid=googextension#ixzz2ajxB6yYZ

And why is the Mr. Big in Washington slapping the face of traditional America and the face of Christianity?

Senator McCain, I see why you lost the election.

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Tea came out my nose when I read Archpriest Vsevolod's unctuous missive.

Remember, Putin's government has a long, well-documented history of hunting down Russian dissidents granted asylum in other countries. . . and killing them.

But that's OK, because Putin is building an Orthodox Paradise in Russia.

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Kind of like the Socialist Paradise Obama's building in America. Not to mention the kidnapping of the President of Bolivia in Obama's attempt to hunt down Snowden:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-un-over-abduction-of-its-president?lite

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Sad to say, both leaders are ruthless and have no credibility.

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You're all on drugs.

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Originally Posted by StuartK
You're all on drugs.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Patriarch Shevchuk added: “The church must give meaning, new meaning to the service of the government. And only then can the state structures experience a renaissance. Not when they take over a church, no. But when they listen to it. When someone who comes to power will understand that his goal is not to preserve his capital or to have protection for his business. It needs to be that when a person goes into politics, he wants to serve someone, sacrifice something for his neighbor. Today the stereotype and notion of power is absolutely Soviet. It seems power is sought in order to rule with all its consequences, to the point that it becomes a repressive mechanism. And so I think it should be changed, transformed in the light of the example of Prince Volodymyr.”

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Originally Posted by StuartK
You're all on drugs.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Drugs sometimes seem a better alternative than ideology, cults of personality, or compliance with directives. laugh

For example, consider this posting by DMD, shamelessly taken out of context:

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... my grandfather tried his hand at mining and did not find it to be where he wanted to be so he moved to New Jersey shortly thereafter! Prior to that he tried steel work in Northside Pittsburgh, where he and my grandmother were married, and didn't like the mill either! He then opened a saloon in Elizabethport, NJ. Smart guy until the Volstead Act got in the way....didn't completely shut him down though!

I would say smart guy even after the Volstead Act. wink


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^Lol....He thought so!

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Originally Posted by Two Lungs
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Patriarch Shevchuk added: “The church must give meaning, new meaning to the service of the government. And only then can the state structures experience a renaissance. Not when they take over a church, no. But when they listen to it. When someone who comes to power will understand that his goal is not to preserve his capital or to have protection for his business. It needs to be that when a person goes into politics, he wants to serve someone, sacrifice something for his neighbor. Today the stereotype and notion of power is absolutely Soviet. It seems power is sought in order to rule with all its consequences, to the point that it becomes a repressive mechanism. And so I think it should be changed, transformed in the light of the example of Prince Volodymyr.”

Wiser words than ones on the subject coming from the hallways of the MP.

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Originally Posted by StuartK
Tea came out my nose when I read Archpriest Vsevolod's unctuous missive.

Remember, Putin's government has a long, well-documented history of hunting down Russian dissidents granted asylum in other countries. . . and killing them.

But that's OK, because Putin is building an Orthodox Paradise in Russia.

while I totally agree with you on the hypocrisy of the statement I am also glad that for a moment Snowden is safe.

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I am also glad that for a moment Snowden is safe.
I agree. I see Snowden as a patriot. The US Constitution is under attack daily from our own government.

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It won't make up for selling Alaska, but I guess it'll do.

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