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#398255 08/21/13 04:49 AM
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Слава Ісусу Христу! - Слава на віки!




"Egyptian Muslims forget Muhammad’s letter to Christian monks at Mt. Sinai", this topic is handled well by the author Craig Considine.


The video and the commentary concerns the fact the Mohammad wrote a letter, which the Holy Monks of Mount Sinai have from him concerning the relationship that Muslims must have when dealing with their fellow Christians.

It is obvious that many Muslims are not aware that such a letter was written by Mohammad for his people. It is truly amazing. Should they follow what was written the problems would have been solved!!!!!! The first part is the written portion and the video explains more

http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/fe ... ai/0019989


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In addition, most Muslims are unaware that he was given refuge by the Ethiopian Orthodox King of Abyssinia within the walls of a monastery/Church when the pagans of Mecca wanted to kill him and his new sect.

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Link was to an anti "Islamophobia" propaganda site.

No thanks.

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Yes, and Mohammad actually forbade his followers from attacking the "sons of Abyssinia" as a result.

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This has to be one of the most interesting topics on this forum. I am amazed there is only 4 posts regarding it.

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Originally Posted by Thomas the Seeker
Link was to an anti "Islamophobia" propaganda site.

No thanks.

I am puzzled by your "NO THANKS". Is there some problem with being against a phobia which indicts many because of the actions of some? Does it make the referenced letter suspicious and perhaps bogus? Even heretics make true statements. You were being facetious and I missed it.

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Originally Posted by Utroque
Originally Posted by Thomas the Seeker
Link was to an anti "Islamophobia" propaganda site.

No thanks.

I am puzzled by your "NO THANKS". Is there some problem with being against a phobia which indicts many because of the actions of some? Does it make the referenced letter suspicious and perhaps bogus? Even heretics make true statements. You were being facetious and I missed it.

I find this position interesting. Am I correct in thinking you believe that it is only a few that give Islam a bad name?

How do you address the complicity?

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Originally Posted by chadrook
Originally Posted by Utroque
Originally Posted by Thomas the Seeker
Link was to an anti "Islamophobia" propaganda site.

No thanks.

I am puzzled by your "NO THANKS". Is there some problem with being against a phobia which indicts many because of the actions of some? Does it make the referenced letter suspicious and perhaps bogus? Even heretics make true statements. You were being facetious and I missed it.

I find this position interesting. Am I correct in thinking you believe that it is only a few that give Islam a bad name?

How do you address the complicity?

I used the word "some", not "few", as in your citation. Yes, I do not believe the actions of some Muslims justifies the condemnation of all. That you find it interesting and not compelling, puzzles me. Islam, while not deserving of our adherence, does, I think, deserve our respect.

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Originally Posted by chadrook
Originally Posted by Utroque
Originally Posted by Thomas the Seeker
Link was to an anti "Islamophobia" propaganda site.

No thanks.

I am puzzled by your "NO THANKS". Is there some problem with being against a phobia which indicts many because of the actions of some? Does it make the referenced letter suspicious and perhaps bogus? Even heretics make true statements. You were being facetious and I missed it.

I find this position interesting. Am I correct in thinking you believe that it is only a few that give Islam a bad name?

How do you address the complicity?

Precisely. "Phobia" is generally defined as an "irrational fear", meaning one without basis in fact.

After the Arab Spring in Egypt and surrounding lands,
after the Jihad unleashed at Fort hood,
after September 11, 2001:
What is irrational about fearing Islamic extremism?

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Originally Posted by Thomas the Seeker
What is irrational about fearing Islamic extremism?

Absolutely nothing. But, fearing Islamic extremism is quite different than fearing Islam or Muslims. I do not fear Muslims or the religion they adhere to, nor do I shun a website simply because it seeks to overcome such a fear.

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Originally Posted by Utroque
Originally Posted by chadrook
Originally Posted by Utroque
Originally Posted by Thomas the Seeker
Link was to an anti "Islamophobia" propaganda site.

No thanks.

I am puzzled by your "NO THANKS". Is there some problem with being against a phobia which indicts many because of the actions of some? Does it make the referenced letter suspicious and perhaps bogus? Even heretics make true statements. You were being facetious and I missed it.

I find this position interesting. Am I correct in thinking you believe that it is only a few that give Islam a bad name?

How do you address the complicity?

I used the word "some", not "few", as in your citation. Yes, I do not believe the actions of some Muslims justifies the condemnation of all. That you find it interesting and not compelling, puzzles me. Islam, while not deserving of our adherence, does, I think, deserve our respect.

I had a long reply. It got to personal so I decided to just say I disagree. I have been to Iraq,Afghanistan,Turkey,Saudi Arabia,Oman,United Arab Emirates,Somalia,Pakistan,Egypt,Lebanon,Kosovo. I even fought Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines.

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Originally Posted by chadrook
I had a long reply. It got to personal so I decided to just say I disagree. I have been to Iraq,Afghanistan,Turkey,Saudi Arabia,Oman,United Arab Emirates,Somalia,Pakistan,Egypt,Lebanon,Kosovo. I even fought Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines.

Well,having been and fought throughout the Muslim world you must have a good idea, then, of how they feel in ours.

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Originally Posted by Utroque
Originally Posted by chadrook
I had a long reply. It got to personal so I decided to just say I disagree. I have been to Iraq,Afghanistan,Turkey,Saudi Arabia,Oman,United Arab Emirates,Somalia,Pakistan,Egypt,Lebanon,Kosovo. I even fought Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines.

Well,having been and fought throughout the Muslim world you must have a good idea, then, of how they feel in ours.

No I don't understand. What are you saying?

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Originally Posted by chadrook
No I don't understand.


I didn't think you would.

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