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You are so certain the liturgy has been wrecked, or at least that is the impression I get. I am Byzantine, but work for the Latins. I do Gregorian chant, some Latin, polyphony, and what has been for hundreds of years, the sacred music of the Latin Rite. No wreckage in my place!

But back to what the Russians have to gain. Perhaps they look out on the world and see, Islam, revolution, war, terrorism, and atheism. Common enemies of both churches, ya think?

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Originally Posted by byzanTN
You are so certain the liturgy has been wrecked, or at least that is the impression I get. I am Byzantine, but work for the Latins. I do Gregorian chant, some Latin, polyphony, and what has been for hundreds of years, the sacred music of the Latin Rite. No wreckage in my place!

But back to what the Russians have to gain. Perhaps they look out on the world and see, Islam, revolution, war, terrorism, and atheism. Common enemies of both churches, ya think?

Well, when you put it that way, instead of thinking of it in religious terms -- yeah, makes all the sense in the world

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Originally Posted by Irish_Ruthenian
... my question was and still remains "What do the Russians want with the Roman Church and Her modern innovations to the Liturgy?"

There. Did I say that in a more acceptable way?

Perhaps you'll have to ask the substantial number of Orthodox prelates who attended the inauguration liturgy of Papa Francesco which was filled with those "modern" innovations you seem to disdain. The truth is many of those modern innovations are a restoration of liturgical practices that had been lost to the Latin rite over time; not least of which is a return to the vernacular, and a noble simplicity that characterizes the real Latin tradition. While the Novus Ordo has flaws which I think time and talent will rectify, it is a far more authentic expression of the Roman tradition than that which came out of Trent.

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