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Moscow Patriarchate tells Vatican that Uniate "problem" should be at the centre of ecumenical dialogue

by Nina Achmatova
22 September 2014
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Mosc...centre-of-ecumenical-dialogue-32217.html

Metropolitan Hilarion again attacks the "project" of the Catholic Church to proselytise in Ukraine, says theological issues should be put aside to address and solve instead the Greek Catholic "problem".


Moscow (AsiaNews) - The Moscow Patriarchate has attacked once again Ukraine's Greek Catholics, warning the Vatican that the "problems" involving the so-called Uniates might have a negative impact on the ecumenical dialogue and relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Santa See.

Metropolitan Hilarion, number two in the Patriarchate and head of the Department for External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, made this point recently on television.

Hilarion sharply criticised Ukrainian Greek Catholics on the programme Church and World reiterating his accusations that the "Uniates" (a term for Catholics that follow the Orthodox rite that has a derogatory connotation) are a special project of the Catholic Church to proselytise.

In his view, at "present" as at other historical times, Greek Catholics have exploited "the support of the Ukrainian authorities of the time" at the expense of the Orthodox.

According to the Orthodox official, despite complaints from the Moscow Patriarchate about the "problem", the Vatican continues to claim to have no influence over the Ukrainian Catholic community because of its autonomous status, and yet it continues to confirm the appointments of all its spiritual leaders.

For Hilarion, "there is something improper in the project itself". Speaking directly to the Catholic hierarchy, he proposed a provocative idea to Catholics.

"It may be that you and we should now discuss in the theological dialogue not such theoretical questions as primacy and conciliarity in the Church but return to the topic of the unia(te) in order to understand why this wound bleeds all the time and why we cannot do anything to repair and heal it," he said.

Reading in-between the lines, he wants the two Churches to draft some kind of code of conduct for the Greek Orthodox and Catholics in the territories where they live.

Against the backdrop of the crisis in Ukraine, the top leaders in the Moscow Patriarchate have already attacked the positions of the Greek Catholics on several occasions. For Russian Orthodox religious leaders, Greek Catholics are guilty for their support of the protests in Kyiv's Maidan Square and for promoting anti-Russian sentiments.

By contrast, the Major Archbishop of Kyiv, Sviatoslav Shevchuk, issued an appeal for reconciliation this summer through AsiaNews. In it, he called on Moscow to recognise the dignity of the Ukrainian people and open a sincere dialogue based on truth. At the same time, he urged people not to believe in the "propaganda" coming out of Russia.


Stuff like this makes my blood boil. Metropolitan Hylarion of Moscow is doing one of the most unchristian things a Christian clergyman can do by persistently attacking other Christians instead of having a vocabulary of love and unity of the Church in Christ and fails to strive to look beyond the 'administrative' by asking for a 'code of conduct' - good grief! He is 'missing the mark' here! If the MP keeps behaving like this, they will be left out in the dust while the rest of the churches unite and this will weaken his position in the course of time and his church... - mark my words, watch and see! Christians MUST be examples of PEACE among each other and find ways toward a Christian dialogue. We can 'agree to disagree' sometimes as human beings the 'reality' of things is not 'perfect' but we must strive toward becoming closer and unite in Christ as He asks us! I agree with Kiev - the Church needs the leadership of the Papacy in a reunified Church! The language of Metropolitan Hylarion is divisive and causes undue harm to Christians and it should STOP! Aside this, the discussions on such matters should come from the very top and not a Church 'External Affairs Minister' such as Hylarion and REAL dialogue should be engaged at the very top level! It is a shame to see this lack coming from Moscow when meetings with Pope Francis I occurred when the Pope merits the attention of the very top level and nothing less on such matters! This behaviour sends a message of blatant lack of respect among Christian heads coming from Moscow and this speaks VOLUMES! Such 'diplomatic' playing on the part of Moscow sends a message loud and clear that this is not sufficiently worthy to them to grant more attention to it or the Pope than this and it is high time the Metropolitan of Moscow got off his seat to enter into the dialogue DIRECTLY and be more welcoming as a Christian SHOULD and all KGB association should be thrown out the window because the smell of corruption is causing a stench which is being 'smelled' the world over from within it! Their 'agenda' is not one of true Christians but one of pure 'power politics' which is shaking at its very foundation to say the least and I smell some festering rats who ought to be ousted! This is NOT Christian behaviour! Alliance with Putin is perhaps their only means of support and 'survival' in Russia but they ought to know that a strong show and distancing themselves from the Kremlin is the FIRST thing they ought to do and I am certain in time many in the public would support them if they showed some decency to begin and genuine CONCERN for Christianity and the Church and behaved like Christians should! To look at what 'unites' and BUILD on those strengths FIRST and toss out the language of 'politics' and replace it with a language of true Christians is the dialogue which Moscow should be engaging in - NOT a language of fear-mongering and division which does not hold in a pail of water for what they are doing is exposing the Russian Orthodox Church to massive ridicule by their stupidity and it does not take a theologian nor a 'diploma' to realize that! The Russian Orthodox Church of the MP should be serving Christ ONLY and not the Kremlin's hidden agenda!

Pray for the rocks which are in the heart of Metropolitan Hylarion and the leaders of his church to melt and turn to gold and make them instead instruments in the unification of the two major churches of Christianity - the Roman Catholic and the Orthodox to UNITE! May the Lord provide them inspiration to change their language of division into a language of love and unity among Christians!

In Christ unite!

Christine


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