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I love this Forum and all the beautiful Icons it provides members for their profile 'picture' but I sure wish it could indicate under EACH one which icon exactly it is - person portrayed or name of the Icon - i.e., 'The Theotokos of the Sign' for example or other special names they may have... It would be so nice to indicate this under them so members could know this when they choose one. . . Many of us here cannot decipher Greek; Russian; or, old Cyrillic script used on Icons and it would be great if the names would be indicated there for us at least - OR - even start a page catalog of Icons for us. . .

I picked one (see image on left of the screen with my 'signature') ...I think this is St Helena of Constantinople but I am not sure... - or - could this be St Ol'ha (Olga) of Pskov? I sure would like to know. . .

God I love this forum - I learn a lot in here!

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It is St. Helena (hag. Elene I can barely decipher -- and her attribute is the True Cross).

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Originally Posted by Mark R
It is St. Helena (hag. Elene I can barely decipher -- and her attribute is the True Cross).


Thank you Mark! It is hard to decipher indeed! While other Saints do sometimes hold a cross too in Icons (have seen this even if it is not their 'attribute' by assignment nor traditional 'convention' in cultus either), it was hard to be 'sure' it was indeed her and your help here is appreciated! I will keep her there!

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Crosses usually signify that the saint is a martyr, but they would be smaller than that held by St. Helena. But not all martyrs necessarily hold crosses, such as my patron St. Mark the Evangelist, who holds a Gospel.

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Mark,

The software does not support adding the saint's name under each icon. I have no expectation it will support it anytime soon.

What you can do is to right click over the icon and open it in a new tab. The look at the URL. Your icon is https://www.byzcath.org/forums/images/avatars/default/0-Helen.jpg - the word "Helen" is a clue. Some use the date (i.e., "icon-1202.jpg") which can be used to find what saint is on that day.

The icons have been added at random over the past 18 years, so there is no standard naming convention.

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Simple just to open your saint's icon image in Paint or a similar program and place the saint's name on your JPEG profile image then post it.

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Mark,

The software does not support adding the saint's name under each icon. I have no expectation it will support it anytime soon.

What you can do is to right click over the icon and open it in a new tab. The look at the URL. Your icon is https://www.byzcath.org/forums/images/avatars/default/0-Helen.jpg - the word "Helen" is a clue. Some use the date (i.e., "icon-1202.jpg") which can be used to find what saint is on that day.

The icons have been added at random over the past 18 years, so there is no standard naming convention.

Best wishes!
John


Thank you John for the 'tips' to determine which Saint these icons represent... - however, I cannot help but wonder if a 'repository' of images of Icons would be great to have or someplace we could go where we could find a great collection of these. . . I am going to do a search on Flickr to see if a world photography group on such images exists... If not, I shall create one and let you all know either way. . .

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Originally Posted by Mark R
Crosses usually signify that the saint is a martyr, but they would be smaller than that held by St. Helena. But not all martyrs necessarily hold crosses, such as my patron St. Mark the Evangelist, who holds a Gospel.


Thank you Mark for pointing this out... - why I did not pay attention to this before - you are quite correct as I noted this even in Byzantine-style Icons. However, I would have more to say on the use of the palm branch as yet another symbol of martyrdom and sainthood used by the Roman Catholic but I am reserving this for material I plan to publish later. . .

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St Mark's great emblem is the Lion, of course. There is a beautiful flag of Venice, both of the city and the region, that bears the aristocratic figure of St Mark's Lion.

I'm going to get it for my Godson's father who is Mark.

And the name is highly honoured in the Coptic Church as St Mark is the founder of the "Evangelical See" of Alexandria. They are building a grand Cathedral of St Mark here and the first Coptic Church of St Mark as a large bone-Relic of the Evangelist which I have been privileged to venerate.

The Latin Diocese of Venice in Florida also honours St Mark as its patron and has a Relic of the Evangelist there. "Marco Island" was originally "San Marco Island."

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I amnot named after anyone in particular, which was very 1st generation American of my parents, but I am 1/2 Italian and my grandfather used to hang around Venice. In fact, he was in the army and was a guard for the bells of St. Mark's (the campanelle was rebuilt...it collapsed shortly after 1900). We are not Venetians, however, but Abruzzese. My gandparents had a pretty nice life there, I do not know why they came here.
That said, I worked once as a concierge in Arlington, VA, and a South American resident used to wear a British style club tie with a repeating pattern of the lion of St. Mark. I wish I knew where he got it.
The local Episcoplaian cathedral has an interesting icon of their patron St. Mark, depicting the Angel of Great Counsel directing St. Mark's writing. St. Joseph's School for Boys carries an icon like this.

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Originally Posted by Mark R
I amnot named after anyone in particular, which was very 1st generation American of my parents, but I am 1/2 Italian and my grandfather used to hang around Venice. In fact, he was in the army and was a guard for the bells of St. Mark's (the campanelle was rebuilt...it collapsed shortly after 1900). We are not Venetians, however, but Abruzzese. My gandparents had a pretty nice life there, I do not know why they came here.
That said, I worked once as a concierge in Arlington, VA, and a South American resident used to wear a British style club tie with a repeating pattern of the lion of St. Mark. I wish I knew where he got it.
The local Episcoplaian cathedral has an interesting icon of their patron St. Mark, depicting the Angel of Great Counsel directing St. Mark's writing. St. Joseph's School for Boys carries an icon like this.


Yes! The lion is indeed an emblem of St Mark as well for Christians! The four evangelists each have an animal to represent them... one is the bull... I forget the other two but this is also in some old writings and a priest at the Notre-Dame Basilica-Cathedral spoke about this when I was on a visit there about two weeks ago. . .

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Christine


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