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jova #414437 01/08/16 09:22 AM
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Those bullies also hold many Novus Ordo Catholics in the same esteem.

But it is true that, more and more, I see our UGCC people as Orthodox in every which way with only a "grudging" acknowledgement of a certain administrative role for the pope.

But if Rome wants to excommunicate us and throw us out so that we would go and unite with our Orthodox brothers and sisters . . .

Who are we to argue with the See of St Peter? wink

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You've got to be kidding aboutEastern Catholic/Orthodox rivalry.
Here in Northeastern Pennsylvania we treat each other as brothers and sisters in Christ.

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I experience that in Roman Catholic circles. It's even directed against Eastern Catholics which they see as not really in communion with Rome frown

I try to educate them, but the hardcore 'bullies' are unwavering frown frown

Don't you just love ignorance? Reminds me of my move to the town I live in and a conversation with a teacher, then just retired, about the grammar situation in the local newspaper. When I suggested that she might get a job there correcting grammar and syntax, she told me "I don't have enough years left in my life to get that done."

I fear that neither do we have enough time to get the kind of ignorance displayed by some overcome. But we keep on trying with a smile. wink

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Originally Posted by Pavloosh
You've got to be kidding
Not kidding, but I should stress that I was mostly referring to experiences I've had electronically. Eastern Catholics with flesh and blood, that I've seen, have been quite fair-minded toward our Orthodox brethren.

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There is one thing that is missing here and that is that EC's and Orthodox are also delineated by their own national Particular Churches.

Ukrainian EC's and Orthodox (EP, KP and Autocephalous - including not a few of those who are MP) have never been on better terms - this is what Pavloosh means.

When it comes to the MP, that is a different story and has NOTHING to do with religious differences.

As we have seen the UOC-MP Primate has given broad permission for his priests and bishops to stop commemorating the Moscow Patriarch to avoid what he himself referred to as "the outrage of the faithful."

One of the difficulties North American EC's and Orthodox have with this is that we just don't understand those issues and how deeply runs that national divide.

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