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Dear Roman,

You obviously have a very disciplined and focused mind! I don't . . .

So with respect to the Paschalion, the Gregorian choice would involve what they call the "Western Pascha." The Reformed or New Julian calendar would involve what I will call the "Old calendar Pascha" and the same would hold true, of course, for the Julian calendar.

Our parishioners love to argue. One priest didn't like the questionnaire and the way it was formatted - and there wasn't really anything about it to like - and said so. There is truly a vocal group that is for the old calendar and "let the rest of the outside world do what it likes." There will be a parish-wide meeting to discuss the findings of the questionnaire and I hope the parish will accept the majority of what the respondents want. Otherwise I'm going elsewhere - period.

Do you know what you call a bishop who sleepwalks? a Roamin' Catholic . . .

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
I agree with you completely, of course, and wish you could be up here to deliver a lecture on this topic to the parish!
Failing that, is there a particular piece that you have written by way of explanatory notes that, with your permission, I could copy and distribute?
If you'd rather not get involved, that is perfectly understandable!
I am involved and I'd welcome the give-and-take of an in-person group encounter; thank you for the "invite" and, but for the distance...

There are so many ways in which the calendar issue is approached and questioned that it's a presentation's pitfall to address at length and in detail a particular aspect that has little or no impact on the concerns of a particular person or group. I've been involved on this forum on this calendar issue since 2007 and that is my experience.

In June 2022 for the Orientale Lumen XXVI Conference on the theme of Nicaea and the Date of Pascha/Easter I gave a (virtual) presentation entitled The Church Calendar: Theology and Technology. The target 40-45 min. presentation became two 1 hour presentations (graciously allowed) -- I could not do minimal justice to the full range of material in anything less (As I said there, "God is in the details.").

As you have asked, I provide a link (below) to a draft paper that is condensed from my Powerpoint presentation(s) at that conference. I'd consider it a resource for a "facilitator" at a parish meeting or a primer or introduction for an in-depth study. Since it is a draft, and may be included in a proceedings, I ask that it not be copied for distribution at this time. A number of points not addressed in the paper are inferred through what are (presently) 18 questions or discussion topics. Criticisms and comments are welcome.

The pdf is too big to be attached to this post. It can be accessed here: The Church Calendar: Theology and Technology [academia.edu]. Another paper from the conference is also available from Fr. Christiaan Kappes (Academic Dean, Ss. Cyril and Methodius Byzantine Catholic Seminary): Universal Date for Easter (Pascha): Worthwhile Innovation in the Annals of Christianity? [academia.edu].

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Bless Reverend Father Deacon and Doctor!

Thank you very much!!

I have some very good news in this regard. The voting appears to be overwhelmingly in favour of the new calendar! I will follow this. A blessed Holy Week and Pascha!

Alex

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
... overwhelmingly in favour of the new calendar!

The issue would be the incompatibility of the Julian Paschalion teamed with the new calendar:

Deuteronomy 22:10 Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.

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Originally Posted by theophan
I will change the title, if that's what is needed. But first let's find out exactly what liturgical calendar is being implemented.

Bob
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The plan is to keep the Julian Paschalion, so with Orthodox Catholic's blessing, please change subject line to "Revised Julian" (per OC's usage).
Thanks.

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I am pleased to give my blessing!

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