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Tragic Legacy of Sigmund Freud

During a century of the influence of Sigmund Freud, many parents have been mistakenly convinced that unless the encourage their child�s "freedom of _expression," the child will grow into a thwarted, twitching, emotionally deformed adult.

Based on his observations, it was Freud who, along with Josef Breuer, developed the concept of repression, setting himself up as the new Moses, destined to set the captives free. According to Freud, the sex drive was the most important emotional force, the denial of which would result in repression. No to act out one�s sexual urges was viewed as abnormal.

Thus the jaws of Hell were opened wide for subsequent generations, as Donald DeMarco confirms in his new book Architects of the Culture of Death, Ignatius Press.

"Today, Freud�s intellectual influence is, in many respects, greater than that of any other modern thinker," Writes DeMarco. "It presides in the classroom, over the mass media, in the chatter at cocktail parties, in the advice of sex counselors. His clinical terms: repression, anxiety, guilt feelings, libido, penis envy, castration complex, are traded as common coin. He has achieved that rare and remarkable transition from intellectual revolutionary to household word. His name is indelibly associated with sexuality, but also with originality, dating and liberation. He is a secular messiah. All this despite the fact that his philosophy does not hold together, his methodology is inconsistent, and his positive contribution to the world is negligible. Sadly, the negative aspects of his philosophy continue to corrode like an uncontrollable acid. Freud�s rejection of religion, fatherhood, morality and his reduction of love to sex have unleashed a plague of problems that has produced widespread and adverse effects."

In Britain, the Labor government is proposing that Brits � having shown at soccer matches that they cannot (or will not) control themselves � should be allowed even more license to get drunk whenever they feel like it. Henceforth they will be able to drink in pubs 24/7.

The consequences of this latest crack-brained scheme will be catastrophic to say the least. And, as with all such mischievous programs designed to swell government coffers with funds that must be spent to "solve" the very problems that they have caused, the biggest victims will be young people.

"There can be no greater accolade for a night than that no trace of it remains in the brain of the person who lived through it." (Not even a hangover?). So says physician Theodore Dalrymple, working in British prisons. He says young Brits find the world so horrible that blotting it out altogether is their only happiness.

Nor is such wretchedness confined to alcohol, as record levels of teenage pregnancy attest. Despite ubiquitous sex education, pregnancy of girls as young as 10 is now common in Britain where teen magazines promote sexual activities that would not be out of place in brothels.

The result is a pandemic of abortion, sexually transmitted diseases and antisocial behaviour, all excused by intoning the mantra of "young peoples� autonomy" and by diseminating ever more information about sex, alcohol and drugs in the ridiculous expectation that teenagers will make their own "informed" choices.

What a disaster! Yet the response of officialdom is simply to redouble its efforts to provide even more of the same.

Such insanity is undermining parents, depriving them of their crucial role in producing emotionally and morally healthy children.

The result is an erosion of parental authority which is increasingly being usurped by the state�s anti-family agenda which sees sex as recreational, having nothing to do with marriage and with no consequences except an unwanted pregnancy which can be easily terminated by abortion. The only choice viewed as not valid is the promotion of valid marriage as superior for family life. Pray for Britain! From an article by Paula Adamick in Challenge magazine. (Canada)

I claim no expertise in this area however what I know of Jungian analysis and Jung Catholic conversion I would suspect that he might have been at home in Eastern Christianity. Anyone who has a firmer grasp on this care to comment?

And yes, I do think this has much to do with Eastern Christianity.

Dan L

Dear Dan,

The strange thing is that the woman that helped form Freud's opinions on sexual urges, insisted that she was demon possessed. Horrors, should he have accepted that! :rolleyes:

Which brings me to another character that helped form the sexual license of our present day. It was Kinsey in his infamous 'Kinsey Report'...which has now been proven to be false.

Zenovia

Here's all I can remember of a topical song which might prove relevant to the discussion:

Oh, it happened in Vienna not so many years ago,
When not so many folks were getting sick.
That a certain young physician tried to better
his postion,
By discovering what made his patients tick.

Oh Dr. Freud, Oh Dr. Freud,
How we wish you had been otherwise employed!
For this set of circumstances sure enhances the
finances
Of the followers of Dr. Sigmund Freud!


Those who know more verses are kindly requested to post them!

Incognitus

All you had to do was ask! ;-)

THE BALLAD OF SIGMUND FREUD
by David Lazar

Oh, it happened in Vienna not so very long ago,
When not enough folks were getting sick;
That a starving young physician tried to better his position
By discovering what made his patients tick.

Chorus:
Oh Doctor Freud, Oh Doctor Freud,
How I wish you had been otherwise employed.
For this set of circumstances sure enhances the finances
Of the followers of Doctor Sigmund Freud.

He forgot about sclerosis
But invented the psychosis,
And a hundred ways that sex could be employed.
He adopted as his credo:
"Down repression, up libido!"
And that was the start of Doctor Sigmund Freud.

Now he analyzed the dreams
Of the teens and libertines,
And he substituted monologues for pills.
He drew crowds just like Wells-Sadler
When along came Jung and Adler,
Who said "By God, there's gold in them thar ills."

They encountered no resistance
When they served as Freud's assistants
As with Ego, and with Id they deftly toyed.
And instead of toting bed-pans,
They bore analytic dead-pans,
Those ambitious Doctors Adler, Jung and Freud.

Now the big three have departed,
But not so the cult they started --
It's been carried on by many a goodly band.
And to trauma, shock and war-shock,
Someone went and added Rorschach,
Now the thing has got completely out of hand.

Now old men with double chinseys
And a million would-be Kinseys
Will discuss it at the drop of a repression.
I wouldn't mind complaining,
for all the dough I'm paying,
To lie down on someone's couch and say confession.

To make a looong story short:
by Sigmund Freud a person is nothing but a creature\animal driven by hormons and his sexual insticts.
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hummm...
Excuse me for asking,
why need I to be a creature driven by his hormons and sexual instincts when i can be a part of the divinity of Christ, better than an angel and priceless to God?
why need i the sickness and trouble-minded legacy of men who cannot see the soul behind my body (i.e Sigmund Freud et. al.) when i have the peace of Christ - the One who sacrificed himself to save this soul of mine?

Praise the Lord,
a sheep

Well, you can be, but that doesn't mean you weren't driven by hormones and sexual instincts in the past. Freud certainly made a lot of errors but not everything he taught was wrong. Like Buddha, he saw, and articulated, many aspects of the human problem very clearly. He just didn't provide the best possible solution.

Hi'ya Dan,

"article by Paula Adamick in Challenge magazine. (Canada)"

I went looking for this article but was unable to find it. It sounds interesting and I'd like to read it for myself. Are you able to help me find it?

Thanks ever so much, wg

Back in the olden days when I was an undergrad minoring in psychology at a Catholic university I do remember a dear priest(actually he was head of the department) and his take on Freud. He really thought some of it was good but that it didn't have to undermine everything. At that time behaviorism and Freudian psychology were the general trends in secular universities. Ours was a private Catholic college so, at least then, not so there. Thank God!

Which reminds me of a story. It seems this same priest, who was also a well known counselor and teacher, upheld the theory and practice of what was then called, "Client Center Counseling" ala Carl Rogers. This meant one mainly listened and sort of by a nod here, an ahummm there, a prolonged silence or a repeat of the client's own words back to em --the client would them somehow just by talking things out be able to evaluate and solve his own problems. Client centered therapy or counseling was very popular at least in our Catholic university 'psych' settings. We students often tried it out on each other.

Now this same priest who we will call Fr. John had a friend called Fr. Phil. Fr. Phil was an advocate of direct rather than indirect counseling not unlike some we see on television today.(No comparisons intended) In the direct approach you just tell it the way you see it and tell em what to do. I mean 'let them have it' style!
Straighten them out. No nonsense.

Both priests had counseling rooms out in the college entry area enclosed only and separated only by windows. So once in a while if a student (like me for instance) would walk by you would see Fr. John with his client experiencing a long time of silence as the client got ready to speak and, at the same time, Fr. Phil in the other counseling room would be yelling at his client and pounding on the table..."What....?....Now, Beatrice, I said NOT to do that again!"

I think we need a little bit of both those approaches which were anything but Freudian analysis.

BTW they wrote a book together. Fr. Phil died years ago and as far as I know Fr. John at 90 some is still listening.

Porter.

How much do we really know about the real Freud, rather than the saintly grandfather described in Ernest Jones hagiography of the "great" man?
The sigmund-freud.com tries to highlight the dark side of Freud which, just like the moon's dark side has never been revealed in full.

Christ is in our midst!!

Carson Daniel,

Happy Birthday.

Bob
Moderator

First and foremost, Freud was a charlatan and did more harm than good with his "psychology." He basically gave pedophiles and excuse to their sin. He was also a non-religious Jew. I see nothing that he said as being relevant in any way to a devout Christian. I apologize for my strong words, but having a background in psychology, and an Orthodox believer, I have seen this as the sort of psychology Satan would develop. Psychology is the spiritual counseling of atheists.

Christ is in our midst!!

bluedawg,

Welcome to the forum.

Bob
Moderator