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I am like many others I've seen here and elsewhere who seem to be perpetually caught between Byzantine Catholicism and Orthodoxy. I don't know which is the true church and can't seem to discern my way through it, finding my convictions keep leaning one way and then another. It would be "easier" to remain Byzantine Catholic since that is what my family is and my going to Orthodoxy may cause problems down the road. However I am 99.999% intellectually convinced that Rome teaches heresies/errors that invalidate her claims of supremacy and infallibility. And acknowledging these historical errors for the facts they are makes it feel like remaining in communion with Rome to be to live with cognitive dissonance. It is very frustrating as all I want is to be in the true church and to have the confidence and peace that I have made the right choice.

Thanks in advance for your prayers. God bless.

Except it doesn't. Orthodox theologians teaching the possibility of universalism in one direction, and teaching that Catholic baptism are invalid (this is especially true in the russian orthodox church, and also quite recent) in the other.
Sounds to me like Orthodoxy has its own problems. So, I think accusing Rome of "possibly" being heretical is really unfounded. Some bishops might be, but so what?
I'll pray for you, but I WON'T pray for you to be confirmed that I'm possibly a heretic.
I've noticed you didn't say what those heresies WERE.
Prayers for you, but not your confirmation bias.

Well this is a prayer thread I didn't want it to turn into a debate thread. Without going into it much further the issues I have are with the heresy of papal supremacy (the Pope is not infallible by himself, no such thing as speaking dogmatically ex cathedra and the pope has never held universal jurisdiction over the entire church, something Rome admits herself in several documents that can be read on the vatican website).

This can be seen as heresy only from a certain point of view, and was not a problem in relations between the various points of Christendom during the first millennium of Christian history.

As someone who has been through this struggle, I can certainly sympathize and attest that much prayers for discernment are needed as well as reading the Church Fathers. You certainly have my prayers for discernment.


Well, you are saying on the one hand:
Which I understand. I was more like 60-40, maybe 70-30 one way or the other on some days. Other days, it seemed more like 50-50.


But then you say this, which seems to indicate that you do know which one is the true Church. If you have decided for "fact" that Rome has taught heresy, I don't see any room for doubt which side you are on, or that you are open to discerning otherwise.

So in the end, it seems like there is a broader discussion you're looking to have outside of prayers. And perhaps that belongs in a different location.