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#42738 06/11/05 05:21 AM
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Patriarch (Batiryark) of the cities of Antioch, Alexandria and Jerusalem, of Cilicia, Syria, Iberia, Arabia Mesopotamia, Pentapolis, Ethiopia, of all of Egypt and the entire East, Father of Fathers, Pastor of Pastors, Bishop of Bishops, the Thirteenth of The Holy Apostles.
Neil,

One would have a hard time fitting all of that on a business card! wink

Σώσον, Κύριε, καί διαφύλαξον η�άς από τών Βασιλιάνικων τάξεων!

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The correct Byzantine liturgical title for the Pope, as accepted by the Holy See, appears in the Greek liturgical books published at Grottaferrata, which consistently style the Pope �our Holy Father Ν , Pope of Rome.�[24] This form also appears in Byzantine liturgical texts recently published by the Holy See for use in the Pope�s presence.[25]

Without access to the archives at the Congregation for the Eastern Churches it is not possible to be certain why there is this discrepancy between the papal title found in Greek and the papal title found in some Church Slavonic editions published in Rome, but the probability is that Father Cyril Korolevsky, who was �the soul� of the commissions which produced these Church Slavonic editions,[26] enjoyed the more elaborate title for the Pope and took pleasure in using it (in one prayer of the recensio vulgata liturgicon[27] he styles the Pope �Pope and Patriarch of the entire universe�), regardless of the inaccuracy. Translators have failed to correct the error.[28]
At least for the Ruthenians, the translators apparently HAVE corrected this error; the Liturgical Commission text in use at the seminary and cathedral has the following in the Litany of Peace:

"For our holy father (Name), Pope of Rome, let us pray to the Lord."

I hope Father Serge hears about it and is pleased with the correction.

Yours in Christ,
Jeff Mierzejewski

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Myles cites a report from the Catholic Encylopedia (the old edition) on the Council of Chalcedon in support of his belief that the Pope had the title "Ecumenical" in Eastern usage during the first millennium.

What was new to me is the idea that this could possibly have come from the Council of Chalcedon. So I looked up the acts of Chalcedon in a more recent edition, and did not find it. Looking at Myles's post more carefully, I then checked what the Catholic Encylopedia offered.

Taking the account at face value (it is in English only at that point), it appears that Eusebius (who may or may not have been Eusebius of Dorylaeum) and four clerics from Alexandria presented petitions, and that each of these style the Pope "ecumenical". That's as may be. But this is not the same thing as it would have been had the Council of Chalcedon attributed that style or title to the Pope. Still less does it prove that this word was used in the liturgical commemoration of the Pope.

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