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Friends,

The current issue of "CNEWA World" has an article and BEAUTIFUL picture of a Ukrainian Greek Catholic priest with his wife and children.

I am deeply moved by emotion upon seeing this tradition of the Eastern Church as a reality.

Enjoy.

click on:

http://www.cnewa.org/cw30-1-4-servingchurch.htm

Great article!

I found it amusing, though, how those called the "traditionalists" in the article are those who want Benediction, Stations and a Basilian priest, in addition to Slavonic Liturgy.

Dave

This is a great article and one entirely empathizes with Fr Havrylenko. Many years!

But also, since the Fast approaches--if anyone has a set of UGCC stations of the cross in English, please let me know. I'd like to get my hands on one.

Wonderful warm loving article! Priestly life in a parish as it should be and hopefully WILL be throughout the Catholic world! The gift of celibacy for the Kingdom is ONLY a bright shining example to the world IF it is freely chosen!

Many years to Father Volodymyr and Panij-Matka Havrylenko and their family!

In His Holy Name,
+Father Archimandrite Gregory

Well, the numbers in the Rus seminary are going up(1 in 4)! Sure there's only 8 seminarians, but hey, it's a start.... :rolleyes:

"The traditionalist group, however, was not satisfied. �We need a priest of the Basilian order who knows all the holy hours, Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament and Stations of the Cross. This young priest doesn�t know these devotions,� says Paraskevia Biletska, a traditionalist in Koty. The group now attends services celebrated by a priest in another town."

Darn those 'revisionists' and 'reformists!' Just another example where our 'received' Ruthenian traditionis are being plundered by 'academics' and 'theologians.'

"�He catechized our children and taught us how to sing vespers. He also gives great sermons.�"

Aaaargh!!! He should have waited until the entire church restored our entire liturgical life before introducing such things so hastily.

Joe, calm down.

I know you've been through a lot with the whole seminary thing, but getting mad at those lay "traditionalists" is not worth your time or spiritual energy.

Keep in mind that they grew up with things a certain way--Slavonic, with western-style devotions. There is little you can do about the fact that they are alienated by what they perceive as a major shift in spirituality.

God bless,

LatinTrad

All tongue in cheek, LT. Gotta get to know me betta. Hee, hee.

We have had married priests for the last 50+ years in our Ukrainian Catholic parish. The priest we have now is married and has two sons. I believe it gives a more human dimension to him and that he can relate better to us.

Dear Dewey:

You wouldn't happen to be from Utica, would you?

Yours,

hal

Paromer,

Thanks for posting the URL. I read it. It gives me hope that someday Roman Catholic priests will be able to chose to marry. And I agree with another here who shares that if celibacy is freely chosen it is a great gift. I also believe that monasticism and those who chose to be monks and nuns are a gift to the church. Also I know from personal experience of 43 years of marriage -- this is also a great and sacramental gift.

Porter

Dear Friends,

I do take some objection to that woman in favour of our old Latin practices being called "traditionalist."

"Traditionalist" should have something to do with our (Byzantine) traditions - not practices that, while valid for a number of our people and parishes still, are outside our church's spirituality.

And that that "traditionalist" so-and-so would leave this married priest to go to a Basilian parish, well . . . I have no words . . .

On a positive note, I understand that the Basilians in Ukraine are setting up statues at various institutions to help remind people about their spirituality . . .

Not one word out of you, Latin Trad, not one word . . .

I'll remember you at Rue du Bac!

Alex

Alex

It strikes me we have had this conversation about the Basilians and their statues before - I remain stunned

Anhelyna

Dear Anhelyna,

Not nearly so stunned as those BAsilians will be if I ever get my hands on them . . .

And, what is worse, I've just found out that my wife has an uncle in Ukraine who is a Basilian theology professor . . .

Just goes to show how important it is to make a complete family check before one commits to someone in marriage . . .

Alex

Oh dear :p

still - she cannot be blamed for her relatives

You really do have my sympathies :p

Anhelyna