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Christmas greetings to all those celebrating the Feast of the Nativity of Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ on Tuesday, January 7th. I pray that this season of Christmas be a joyful and holy time for both you and your entire family.
Christ is Born! Glorify Him!
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Christ is Born!
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Christ is Born!
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CHRISTOS ROZDAJETSJA! SLAVITE JEHO! I'm sitting here watching the snow fall outside and listening to Christmas greetings and Christmas music on THE VOICE OF RUSSIA WORLDSERVICE, formerly RADIO MOSCOW. How AWESOME is our God and wonderful in all things!!! Wishing all who are celebrating the Birth of Our Divine Savior, a Very Happy, Blessed and Peaceful Holiday! CHRISTOS ROZDAJETSJA! S'ROZDESTVOM CHRISTOVIM! MIR BOZI! CHRISTOS SE RODI! mark 
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Christos Sya Rozhdaye! A most wonderful and blessed Nativity in the Flesh of our Lord, God and Saviour Jesus Christ to all of you! I hope and pray your Svyaty Vechir was peaceful, prayerful and brilliant with the light of the Saviour. Ours was wonderful last night, except this year my wife asked we not throw the kutia on the ceiling... a sticky predicament... 
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To all of you celebrating today :-
A very Happy, Blessed and Peacefilled Christmas.
May Christ, our true God, who was born in a cave in Bethlehem of Judea, and who laid down in a manger for our salvation, through the prayers of His most pure Mother, and of all the saints, have mercy on us and save us, for He is good and loves mankind.
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Blessed Christmas day to all celebrating today! In my part of the country (NJ) it snowed again last night. Christmas was a white one this year...whether you celebrated according to Gregorian or Julian calendar! :-)
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A blessed new year to all forum members as well!
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Blessed Christmas to all the Brethern celebrating the Lord's birth today.
Christ has entered our world, Glory to God in the highest.
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Dear Brothers and Sisters,
Kreesdos Dznoont yev Haydnetsav,
Christ Born and Revealed,
Ornyal eh Haydnootyoon Kreesdosee!
Blessed is the Revelation of Christ!
Yesterday, January 6th is the day the Armenian Church celebrates the Nativity and Baptism of our Lord. I wish you all who celebrate his Nativity today and very Holy Nativity!
By the way, why do you all call it "January 7th?" Are you not celebrating it on this day becasue you are holding to the old calendar? Therefore you are really celebrating it on what you consider to really be DEcember 25th, correct?
The reason I ask is because an Armenian friend of mine recently referred to January 6th as "Orthodox Christmas." He thought all Orthodox celebrated the Nativity and Baptism on January 6th as does the Armenian Church. I tried to explain to him this is not the case and that what was actually happening was that the Orthodox were keeping the old calendar which is a couple of weeks off of the new calendar. Therefore it only seemed like we were celebrating on around the same day. He looked at me with an eye of suspicion wondering if I knew what the heck I was talking about.
Well how about it? Do I know what the heck I'm talking about or do I need some enlightening here? I'd appreciate any replies.
In Christ's Light,
Wm. Der-Ghazarian
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Dear Ghazar:
I have wondered the same thing that you and your Armenian friend have wondered. Perhaps some of our friends on this forum can help.
One explanation that I was given by a Russian Orthodox priest many years ago runs like this. The Gregorian calendar has leap year in order to keep the calendar aligned with the moon. So once every four years we insert an extra day to keep things straight.
The Julian calendar has no leap year and keeps getting out of alignment with the moon. The Julian calendar was supposed to add a day at the change of each new century to do the same thing as the Gregorian: getting realigned.
This priest told me that when he was growing up (prior to WW 1) many of the people he knew who had lived in the 19th century told him that January 6th was Orthodox Christmas and that they really had a tough time getting used to the fact that the Russian Orthodox Church had changed the observance to January 7th after the turn of the 20th century.
I have wondered, as we turned a new century, why the Julian calendar was not adjusted.
On the other hand, maybe this explanation is off the mark and just represents an unfounded opinion.
BOB
P.S.: To all my brothers and sisters who have celebrated the birth of our blessed Lord on either January 6 or January 7--which is actually December 25 on their calendars and in their Service Books--
Christ is Born!!!
Let us glorify Him!!!
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My wishes (belated for our Armenian brothers and sisters) for a happy and peace-filled Christmas. May we all be gifted with the wisdom to recognize the blessing of His Presence among us today and always!
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Deare Friends,
Christus Natus Est!
Thank you for your Christmas blessing!
Happily, Christmastide is a forty-day affair and we are all now singing from the same hymn-sheets!
The question posed by Ghazar is most interesting.
I believe that in another hundred years, Julian Calendar Christmas will be on January 8th - why and how I don't know.
The Armenian Church is, of course, the only Church that continues to celebrate Christmas on the Feast of the Theophany or January 6th according to the Gregorian Calendar.
Armenians in Israel follow the Julian Calendar, but, interestingly enough, did not "jump a day" at the turn of the century and so, to this day, continue to celebrate their Christmas Day on JANUARY 18TH and not the 19th. Is that cool or what?
When the New Calendar came into being, there was actually a lot of opposition from local Catholic bishops, including Italy, against it, much for the same reasons why Old Calendarist Orthodox and Eastern Catholics continue with it today.
Being Anglican, England was actually the last western country to accept the Gregorian Calendar, which it did in the 19th century, opposing it on the grounds of it being a papal calendar.
(England also opposed the change of the New Year to January 1st and continued to observe it at the end of March until the 19th century too - "April Fools' Day" is actually the old secular English New Year's Day and accountants and others still see March 31st as "fiscal year end.")
To this day, there are some few Scottish, Welsh and Cornish Protestant parishes that call January 6th (19th century Julian Calendar Christmas Day) "Yule" or "Old Christmas Day."
The practice of taking a cutting from the hawthorne said to have grown from the staff of St Joseph of Arimathea when he stuck it in the ground on his visit to Glastonbury and sending it to the Queen for Christmas still exists.
However,one must wait for the bush to flower and this it does ONLY around January 6-7th!
Believe it or not . . .
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