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Noted. 26 years since my last Latin class. wink

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It's now about 8:30pm on Holy Thursday in Vatican City. I guess no document about the TLM was issued today.

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I don't expect anything before Easter Sunday...likely 4/19...the date of Pope Benedict's election.

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I don't expect anything before Easter Sunday...likely 4/19...the date of Pope Benedict's election.

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And I'll go out on a limb and predict that whatever he announces, it won't satisfy everybody. wink

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Many people have duly noted that it would be incongruous for a Pope such as Benedict who calls us to more prayerful liturgy and deep meditation, to issue this kind of thing during the Sacred Triduum. It would not be in keeping with the extremely solemn and penitential spirit of the season.

I think the same is true for Easter Sunday. The sole "theme" for Easter is our Resurrected God and Lord. On Easter Monday, Pope Benedict leaves for a short vacation. I would expect something after that, either on the date of his election, or on the Feast of Pope Saint Pius V (April 30th), or just any old day, perhaps with the letter being dated on Holy Thursday, but not released until whichever day the Pope chooses.

Aside from all that, the two Papal Masses today were marvelous. It seems the Chrism Mass was almost all totally in Latin, all the readings were chanted (not just the Gospel), and none by laymen. The entire Canon was chanted (Eucharistic Prayer III), and actually I think the only non-Latin language that was used was the homily, and maybe something else.

The afternoon Mass of the Lord's Last Supper was similar.

I was watching Archbishop Marini the entire time, imagining the emotional turmoil he must've been undergoing! wink Though, admittedly, that shouldn't have been one of my focuses!

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LT,

I enjoyed the Greek chanting of the gospel etc as well...I think the fuzzz is coming off the peaches soon...

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Teen,

Are you sure you heard Eucharistic Prayer III? Granted I heard only the Maundy Thursday Mass at Lateran today, but it was definitely Prayer I (Roman Canon) with the beautiful "hostiam sanctam, hostiam puram, hostiam immaculatam" (strangely missing from the execerable ICEL translation). And yes, I love how Marini always has this deadpan look on his face. He recently went on record talking about how his plans for each mass are always sent back by Benedict marked up with red pen. "Whaaaaah!Whaaaaaah"

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The Eucharistic Prayer for the Chrism Mass was Eucharistic Prayer III. The one for the Lord's Last Supper was Prayer I.

Can't we just suppress Eucharistic Prayers II and IV? wink

I'll give His Holiness some time...he's been working magic so far!

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What's wrong with Eucharistic Prayer II? Isn't it supposed to be used during the week. I'll grant that I and III are better, but I think that the original idea behind the 4 was that the shorter one was for the week so people could go to Mass and then go to work.

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Just for the record - the Holy Father used the third Anaphora for the Chrism Mass (in the morning) and the Roman Anaphora (aka Prayer 1) for the Maundy Mass in the evening.

What's wrong with Prayer 2? In far too many places it's the only one in use - and it's a poorly-done adaptation of the Anaphora of Saint Hippolytus anyway.

The fourth Anaphora is actually quite lovely, but one never hears it in use.

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A usually reliable source (a priest I know who has friends in low places) just rang to tell me that Pope Benedict XVI has indeed signed the Motu Proprio (a form of Vatican decree indicating that this is done on the personal initiative of the Pope) confirming that every priest of the Roman Rite is at liberty to offer Mass according to the pre-conciliar version. This is to be announced formally before the end of April, God willing.

Sounds good - but seeing is believing.

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Beatitude Incognitus interesting news.

The 4th was used a lot here down under but some priests but some could never get it through their head that is was structured differently and they could not mix and match without stuffing it up totally.

Below stairs news is often the best and most reliable.

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How about "His Plenteous Benignitude"?

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How about your Emminent Beatitude or Your Beatific Emminence? wink

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Your Prominence!

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