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Vlad Draucla (1431-1476)was Catholic and died a Catholic. He was born Catholic and then at somepoint converted to the orthodox church and then convert to the Catholic Church.

He defended the Church and Transylvania from the onslaught of the Turks (Muslims).

Pope Pius II called Vlad "A Catholic Warrior."

Most people get Vlad mixed up with the Dracula of Holloywood. Even Bram Stoker (who was Protestant and from Ireland) did not take the name of his book from this Wallachia Prince.

Actually, Vlad was very just and believed firmly in God and His true Church. The orthodox acutally called him a "heretic" when he converted to Catholicism.

The origin of "impalment" was actually started by the muslisms. At one point Vlad became a prisoner of the muslisms along with his brother "Radu the Handsome."

In the muslim camp they were subject to study Islam--Vald never accepted it--but his brother Radu did and later fought against his brother in battle.

While Vlad was there he learned of the tortures that the muslims displayed on what they called "enemies of god." Thus Vlad when he was released and later become Prince adopted this method against them.

Therefore the name: Vlad the Impaler was born.


Vlad died a hero for God's Church and I believe is a Saint in heaven.

With this I remain,

VladCatholic

PS

I found this interesting quote:

“If anyone does not properly and truly confess in accord with the holy Fathers, that the holy Mother of God and ever-Virgin and immaculate Mary in the earliest of the ages conceived of the Holy Spirit without seed, namely, God the Word Himself specifically and truly, who was born of God the Father before all ages, and that she incorruptibly bore (Him), her virginity remaining indestructible even after His birth, let him be condemned”

(The 1st Lateran Council, 649 A.D., Canon 3).

Dear Vlad,

O.K., I see your point!

But why do you insist on spelling "Orthodox" with a small "o?"

If you are doing this deliberately as a sign of disrespect to our Orthodox brothers and sisters, then the Moderator/Administrator will have something to say about that.

As will the rest of us.

Please, if you can, change your post and spell "Orthodox" correctly.

Will you do it?

Alex

Do you want to know what greatly upsets me? Well, it is that you judge me and never look at what the Church teaches but you attack me personally and why do you nit pick at me and also, why do you judge my intentions?

After all......

VladCatholic

PS

Read what I have written. If you agree or disagree that is up to you. Why am I persecuted--I have not personally persecuted anyone here have I? Stick with the subject not the messenger of the subject.

If someone disagrees with the dogma as defined by Pope Eugene IV etc.

It is he that you have the disagreement with, right? I did not define it.

Also, how childish it is to run...."the moderators need to know about you and what you say." Please (Parakolo)......

Thanks!

Vlad,

He was held by Muslims for a period of several years, as a guarantee of his father's neutrality with regard to the Turks, a not uncommon tactic in those days.

To say that he "adopted this method (impalement) against them" is to understate, significantly, his usage of the technique. He employed it with a seeming degree of relish against anyone and everyone with whom he came into conflict, and some with whom he only came into contact. For a discussion of same:

Biography of Vlad The Impaler [ucs.mun.ca]

More bothersome, as Alex has noted, is your continued use of the lower-case in referencing our Sister Orthodox Churches and their faithful.

Many years,

Neil

Dear Vlad,

I apologise if I have upset you!

I judge no one! It is just that we have some rules here about not offending the Orthodox (or anyone for that matter).

Why do you write "orthodox?" If it is an error on your part, that is fine!

Otherwise, the Administrator will INDEED call you for that.

I'm simply stating a fact, as my brother Neil, has also affirmed.

No one is persecuting you. I have been called on the carpet here many times, ME, of all people, for all sorts of infractions.

And did I get upset and leave? Well, yes . . . but I always came back!

Again, sorry, but I only stated the truth - as you say you do too.

Alex

Well, LOL.......

To begin, I am very Familiar with the issue of Vlad Dracula as I am from Boston and have know Raymond McNally (deceased) author of the book: In Search of Dracula.

Also,

To note: I have had contacts with Elizabeth Miller as well.

Curious what about Pope Pius II stated of Vlad? He considered him a warrior for the Catholic faith.

And, since you seem to agree that nothing should be noted here on the dogma Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus as being a clear and shut case.

Are you aware that fr. peter felhner gave his approbation to a book called: They Fought the Good Fight?

And also, fr. felhner (who has appeared on ewtn) and resides in New Bedford, Mass. The same book he endorsed was given and "imprimatur" by the late bishop harrington.

Lastly,

Have you ever heard of the Book: "The Catholic Dogma" by Fr. Michael Muller? Or, "The Sincere Christian" by Archbishop George Hay that "both" support the dogma of Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus in its "strict" form?

What of them? Were they heretics too?

Thanks buddy!

VladCatholic

By the way, Pope Pius II called Muslisms "Infidels."

Dear Vlad the New Impaler,

Where does the Catholic Church say that Orthodox Christians, who do not accept papal jurisdiction, are condemned to hell as a result?

Is that what you are saying?

Is that what the Catholic Church today is saying?

So, for you, the development of doctrine is heretical?

Why can't you simply state how you interpret these matters? Or do you think that is self-evident?

Popes called people a number of names, some of which were not Christian in the least.

And what, in the end, does any of this have to do with Eastern spirituality and tradition?

Rather than be huffy, can't you simply speak to the issues you raise?

If you do not explain yourself, you should not be upset if others assume, even wrongly, what you intend to say.

Alex

Vlad,

Do you know what upsets me?

I am upset when new people come to the Forum and post lots of things out of context.

I am upset when new people come to the Forum and pick and choose excerpts from Church teachings to support a personal agenda, one that involves judging others.

There is no way a charitable person can conclude anything except that you have an agenda and that it is not one in line with the Church�s mission to proclaim the Gospel.

You are not the infallible voice of Church teaching.

Those who disagree with your post or a quote within your post disagree only with your interpretation of that topic.

Please contact me via personal message or e-mail before posting again.

Admin

Oh good, we're neighbors.

Can one presume you're not Radu Florescu?

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding where all this is going. While I'd love a good discussion about Feeneyites, sede vacantists, vagante hierarchs, and the various irregular "Catholic" and "Orthodox" Churches (by which I do not mean those Orthodox Churches of so-called canonically-irregular status), this isn't really the forum for it.

Many years,

Neil

Personally, I'm stocking up on silver bullets...

I'm surprised that anyone would consider Vlad the Impaler to be a saint. Needless to say, I doubt he'll be canonized any time soon.

In Christ,
Anthony

I suspect that Mr Vlad is a sedevacantist Feenyite vampire. Excuse me sir, if this is not accurate; I am only guessing from your posts...

The Adventures of Vlad the Sedevacantist Feeneyite Vampire. I think that would make a great B movie.

In that case, your silver bullets won't work. The silver bullets only stop the werewolves.

BTW, Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula was IMHO the best cinematic treatment of Vlad.

Dear Friends,

Perhaps the famous Impaler could be canonized along with Tsar Ivan the Terrible and Rasputin?

As my mother is of Rumanian background from the same region, I do know that there is no movement to have Vlad canonized.

Some do consider him to be a national hero, however.

Alex