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Recently while praying I�ve found that I cover my face with my hands or shield my eyes a lot, is this is a common occurrence? Do the Church Fathers mention this at all?
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Odo
Abba Isidore the Priest:
When I was younger and remained in my cell I set no limit to prayer; the night was for me as much the time of prayer as the day.
(p. 97, Isidore 4)
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Hey,
It's common allright. I do that sometimes. It helps me block out the world to focus on my prayers and mediation to God.
Pope John Paul II does it a lot, right Alex?
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Yep I do it too, mostly when I am praying earnestly for God to do something that I really want done (like reuniting the Orthodox and Catholic Churches) or when I am asking forgiveness about something I feel especially horrible about. But most of the time when I "shield my face" my hands are in the "prayer position" if you know what I mean, and they are covering my nose and mouth.
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Slava Jesu Kristu,
I do it also in moments of my most intense prayer. I find it comforting especially if the subject matter is grave.
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Dear SPDundas, Yes, the Pope does, by George!  The monastic hood has very much the same effect in that it helps one block out the immediate environment and focus on God in prayer. It is always good to have a darkened room for prayer. The Ethiopians often drape their prayer shawls over themselves when they are in intense prayer. This shows how certain outward forms can help with prayer, lighted candles, a room apart, icons, a shawl or something like that, prayer beads or rope, incense sticks, what have you. And the Holy Spirit will teach us along the way. Let us become flexible in His Hands and He will bring us into true Communion with Him and the Father with His Son. Alex
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: Yes, the Pope does, by George!
Cardinal McCarrick has told a story from his days as Archbishop of Newark. The Pope came to visit, back in the 1980s I think, and after mass, the entourage was supposed to travel on a tight schedule to some other event. The Archbishop and the Pope were walking in the Cathedral and passed a side chapel. The Pope went to his knees and was lost to the world for about 15 minutes. I suppose the folks at the next event were rewarded for their patience.  Have a Blessed Day !!! John Pilgrim and Odd Duck
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Hey I read here by Orthdox Catholic that Ethiopians Use Prayer shawls? what type of Ethipoians are these? Eastern Catholic? ORthodox? what type? also what do these Prayer Shawls look like? where would one obtain one? i have often looked for a Christian Prayer Shawl but never could find one. i always wondered why most Religions have some sort of Prayer shawl but Christians dont? do Byzantines use them?
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John
a Roman Catholic on the Path to the Byzantine! =)
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Dear Friend,
Yes, both Ethiopian Catholics and Orthodox use prayer shawls and these can often be ordered online at the various Ethiopian markets on the internet.
Perhaps you might have an Ethiopian Church or market in your community - these would have them.
My local store used to have them and I've gotten them for members of my Internet Forum Family here before - I'll keep an eye out for one for you.
Alex
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thank you Alex! and please call me john! we are brothers in Christ! =) do you happen to know any web sites that sell these shawls? i couldent find any when i did a search on the web?
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Glory to Jesus Christ! Prayer Shawls from $29.99 at http://www.theshofarman.com Hope this is of help. God Bless! IC XC NIKA, -Nik! "Visit my website sometime!"
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hey thanks Nik!! but i noticed these are Jewish Tallis prayer Shawls? i have seen these before but i am currious the ethopian Shawls are they deffrent? are they made deffrent or do they use the same ones that Jews use today? also i would love to vist your website but you did not give me your Adress? lol =) GOD BLESS!
your brother in Christ Jesus
john
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Glory to Jesus Christ! Dear John, I think the shawls are the same whether Jewish or Christian. The Ethiopian branch of Christianity is very old tabernacle focused. As for my website it is http://YourCatholic.com it is a Catholic Portal and Forum for all rites. I will be happy to see you visit. God Bless! IC XC NIKA, -Nik! "That website guy"
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