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#46778 12/30/03 06:53 PM
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CHRISTOS ROZDAJETSJA!

Hi Everyone...

For anyone living near the town of Chippewa,PA; northwest of Pittsburgh, the RIVERSIDE ANTIQUES MALL has a SIGNED AND DATED ikon of the Mother of God by CHRISTINA DUCHWAT!!!

THIS IKON IS GORGEOUS!!!! THE OWNER DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE/SHE HAS!!!!

The ikon is in a tacky gold frame but it is an ORIGINAL about 24" x 36" with gold leaf.

It is SIGNED CHRISTINA DUCHWAT and dated 1971.

The tag says $425...

If you go to the Antiques Mall, go in the main door and turn right, go down 2 stalls and it's right there on the wall (maybe 3 stalls)...

I hope some can "rescue" this GORGEOUS ikon....

the least servant of the servants of God...

Also wishing you all a very Happy, Prosperous and Blessed New Year!

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Does anyone know if Ms. Dochwat still writing icons?

Sam

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I've seen a great deal of Christina Dochwat's icons and I have truly never been impressed by them. In an attempt to appeal to westernized thinking she developed a style of rosy cheeked, very life-like images that would be tolerable to those in our churches who were not in favor of traditional iconographic style. She certainly had a following, especially among the Ruthenian and Ukrainian churches in the 70's, but the majority of newer churches have opted for a return to a more traditional style. Additionally, because of a great demand for her work, the icons became almost mass produced and included such things as signatures, which are forbidden in iconography. Her early work was actually much more iconographic in style but unfortunately only exists in a few places still. Not meaning any disrespect to Ms. Dochwat, because she has definitely worked hard throughout her life, but I am glad that we see less of her images in our churches today and more traditional iconography.

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I agree with MJ

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I've never seen Dochwat's iconongraphy. But rosy-cheeks? That feature really stood out in the old, local icons that I saw in Sharish museum in Bardejov. An unusual and very appealing style. Are Dochwat's like these?

Whose traditon in iconography are we talking aobut?

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I would very much be interested in seeing some of Christina Duchwat's icons. Are any somewhere online?

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This is the Icon of SS Cyril and Methodius in the Seminary Chapel by Christina Dochwat.
https://www.byzcath.org/seminary/academic_catalog.pdf

This is the Iconostasis of The Byzantine Chapel in the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception by Christina Dochwat.

http://www.nationalshrineinteractive.com/About/AboutList.cfm?c=102


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#46785 12/31/03 03:34 PM
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Thank you Deacon Lance,

It appears that Christina Duchwat's works are in mosaics.

As DJS has stated, many of the ancient icons, especially the old Russian ones, have rosey cheeks also. I suppose there is a variety of iconic traditions and we all have our favorites.

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Rose2,

No, neither the Seminary or Chapel are mosaics. They are traditional paint on wood. Perhaps pixelation in the images is making them look mosaic like?

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#46787 01/01/04 08:27 PM
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Thank you Father Deacon Lance,

"pixelation" was probably distorting the images on my computer. Thanks for the clarification.

Rose2

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Hi Rose....

Actually, the pic of the Chapel, that is a mosaic behind the ikonstas. There are 2 other mosaics, one to the right side and one to the left side of the Chapel. They are not in the pic though.

One of the mosaics depicts Sts.Cyril and Methodius and show a beautiful wooden church from the Carpathian Mountains and the Ikon of Our Lady of Mariapocs.

The other mosaic shows an ikon of Our Lady of Perpetual Help along with the steels mills of Pittsburgh, coal mining tools, the Carpathian mountains, the Statue of Liberty and the onion dome of the Byzantine Catholic Seminary in Pittsburgh. The "history" of the Ruthenian Eparchy in short...

Guess I'll get blasted for this statement tooo....

Oh, well, who cares anymore, I happen to LOVE Christina's work and think she's so much better than some of the so-called ikonographers out there today....

I hope everyone has a blessed and Happy New Year!

mark


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Mark,

Whoops, I did overlook the very obvious mosaic behind the altar, duh! I was only thinking about the iconostasis. Was Ms. Dochwat responsible for the mosaics at the Seminary and Shrine Chapels?

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#46790 01/02/04 12:20 AM
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MJ

You state: "In an attempt to appeal to westernized thinking she developed a style of rosy cheeked, very life-like images that would be tolerable to those in our churches who were not in favor of traditional iconographic style."

Baloney! Please forgive me for being so forward but I tire of these kind of statements that are ultimately unfounded. Ms. Dochwat did not invent any new style but, as djs mentioned, borrowed from existing ones. Early Novgorod school and Coptic Icons are not that much different from Ms. Dochwat's. I would add Ms. Dochwat's are more "traditional" than the Baroque style icons that were found in the majority of our parishes for a long time. But that leads to the question of what is "traditional" iconography. There are many traditional styles and Ms. Dochwat's falls within them. The more severe Athonite style that seems to be in vogue today is certainly traditonal but not the only tradtional style.

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#46791 01/02/04 12:46 AM
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I agree. The earlier postings made me think of a certain westernized style. Thankfully, Fr Deacon Lance gave us a website where we could see her work; though I was familiar with the Byzantine chapel at the National Shrine I did not know the iconographer. The Russians and other Slavs always favored a more tender, "human" style of iconography than the more austere [and Platonic?] Greeks. I think her work falls easily into this tradition, but if she indeed signed her works I would not favor this.

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SLAVA ISUSU CHRISTU!

Hello Fr.Deacon Lance!

A Blessed and Happy New Year to you!

Ms. Duchwat designed the mosaics in the Chapel but I think they were executed in Italy.

Anyone up in the Hazelton area?

Do you know if the new ikons were installed in St.John the Baptist church in time for Christmas?

My ikon teacher said he delivered the ikons and they were supposed to be up in time for Christmas services...

mark


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