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Hello to all,
I have been learning about all the recent (last one hundred years),schisms and conflicts in the Orthodox world from a Bishop Gregory of Denver who is part of the Bulgarian Church. He refers to this as the Genuine Orthodox Church. I am not really clear on this so I was hoping someone might know if this is a canocal or valid church.
The more I try to sort the Orthodox situation out the more complicated it gets.
Thanks for your help.

Perhaps are you referring to the Genuine Greek Orthodx church of North and South America?

They're old-calendarist, traditionalist, and Schismatic, who have a very Greek only mentality.

Here's a link to their website:

http://www.thegreekorthodoxchurch.com/metropolis/index3.php

Stay away from this man. He is part of a schism from ROAC which is a schism from ROCOR. He has control of a monastery and convent in Colorado, 3 or 4 parishes in the US and 2 in Bulgaria. He is not part of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church or the Bulgarian Old Calendarist Church nor is he in communion with any other Old Calendarist Jurisdcition in Greece. I think he wants to be in communion with the Genuine Orthodox Church of Greece under Archbishop Makarios but I don't think that ahs occurred yet. They have 4 parishes in the US.

Fr. Deacon Lance

But they do seem to be ordaining people at a faster rate than we do. Hmm... Maybe we could learn something from them.

CDL

If ordaining those unfit for ministry, mentally unstable, and ready to go into schism over the smallest issue in order to be a presiding hierarch is what you want to learn...

Deacon Lance,
Yes, that is the group I'm talking about. Thanks for the warning. I will steer clear.

Are they unfit?

CDL

Read their history.

Is this group connected with Genuine Orthodox Church of Greece?

By the way, the GOCG has a great publisher of Orthodox books associated with it; Holy Apostles Convent in Buena Vista, CA.

I've heard Bishop Gregory's community referred to as a "catacomb" church. I think that stands for:
Colorado
Autocephalous,
True and
Autonomous
Church
Oof
My
Basement.

You forgot "and all the Seven Seas", but that would destroy the acronym.

I don't know where to find it. However, I do note that at least they have a monastery and ordinations. We can have a sense of superiority over them but then many Orthodox not in communion with Rome express and sense of superiority over us and RCs and EOs of express a sense of superiority over each other.

Do you have a link to their history?

CDL

If we are going to base that by ordinations and a monastery they are spiritual healthy and they have some advantage then you need to carefully examine your criteria. As was stated above, a number of their candidates for ordination have been rejected by other groups, lack theological education and in some cases come with a very unsavory past.

The above cited "hierarch" has been in no less than half a dozen different jurisdictions in the last 20 years. It seemed each time he went from priestmonk to archimandrite, to bishop and now archbishop. Most of his public "epistles" have been the most vile and Unchristian things to read in print. They have been responsible for dividing families, and turning people against each other.

This group is anti-semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-Orthodox (meaning the mainstream Orthodox Church) anti-etc. This is supposed to be a group that we are learning from? I think it is time to stand back and really look at what you are asking for. This group especially should be the last one anyone should look at to model anything after.

In IC XC,
Father Anthony+

Ok ok, I get the message. They are a bunch of mopes, probably heretics, and certainly schismatics. Their ordinations and monasteries are no good. I get the picture. I still don't know where to find their history and I'm not trying to defend them.

I have concurred, do concur, and will concur that a serious Christian should stay away from them.

I'll make my case for our need for monasteries and taking candidates more seriously on another thread.

I am not trying to defend the "Genuine" Church.

CDL