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#48851 02/08/03 12:43 AM
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Jenny, you can probably get the Guide to the Domestic Church from Icon and Book Service, on the web at www.iconbook.org [iconbook.org] Elaine is very helpful and the bookstore is an outreach of the Ukrainian Catholic Monastery of the Holy Cross.

Eastern Christian Supplies has lots of neat items for the domestic church including hanging lamps and odds and ends like lamp glasses, wicks, etc. I highly recommend their Old Believer wick holders if you are going to use oil in your lamp (as is traditional). You can check them out at www.easternchristian.com [easternchristian.com]

St. Isaac of Syria Skete has some domestic church items as well at www.skete.com [skete.com] Hope that helps.

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Jenny, you can probably get the Guide to the Domestic Church from Icon and Book Service, on the web at www.iconbook.org [iconbook.org] Elaine is very helpful and the bookstore is an outreach of the Ukrainian Catholic Monastery of the Holy Cross.

Eastern Christian Supplies has lots of neat items for the domestic church including hanging lamps and odds and ends like lamp glasses, wicks, etc. I highly recommend their Old Believer wick holders if you are going to use oil in your lamp (as is traditional). You can check them out at www.easternchristian.com [easternchristian.com]

St. Isaac of Syria Skete has some domestic church items as well at www.skete.com [skete.com] Hope that helps.
Thank you so much, Diak. That is a big help! I really appreciate the links and recommendation.
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God Bless,

Jenny

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It can also have a little desk or place where prayerbooks and other devotionals can be stored, including Holy WAter from the Theophany Feast, Candles from Candlemas/the Meeting, Pussywillow form Palm Sunday and a box for Blessed Bread from the Sunday Liturgy.

In the mornings, one may say one's morning prayers, and before one eats breakfast, may drink some of the HOly Water and partake of the Holy Bread as a form of Communion.

Alex
I wasn't going to ask this because I was afraid it was a stupid question, but I'm really curious: you take home Holy Bread and Holy Water from Liturgy??? Does everyone do that? Or do you just have to ask?

Of course, I'm not Byzantine Catholic (yet), but when I become Byzantine Catholic, can I do this?

God Bless,

Jenny

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Gracious -- I had totally forgotten about that aspect [ umm Antidoron I mean smile ].

If my mind is not adrift [ and it could be wink ] I seem to remember that this came up a long time ago - long before The Crash and in fact just after I came on the scene. Since I can't remember much at all about it folks - how about a refresher course for me as well ?

Anhelyna confused

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Dear Anhelyna and Janka (how about a Ukrainian-sounding name for you, Jenny? wink ),

The Eastern Churches have the tradition of what COULD be called making a spiritual Communion, not only in desire, but also by partaking, in the morning, of some Holy Water and also of some of the Antidoron.

This is the left over and Blessed Bread which is distributed toward the end of the Divine Liturgy - some parishes give communicants some of this Bread and warm water to wash down the Holy Communion.

It is Holy Bread, although not Communion, but should be treated with the utmost of respect when we bring it home with us.

It should be stored properly and at our icon shrine.

The Old Believers cover a special table with white cloth to place the Bread on.

We partake of this Holy Bread immediately following our morning prayer and prior to breakfast, to communicate on an empty stomach etc.

The Orthodox love this tradition, and it is strong among a number of Eastern Catholic Churches and parishes.

Alex

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Dear Anhelyna and Janka (how about a Ukrainian-sounding name for you, Jenny? wink ),

The Eastern Churches have the tradition of what COULD be called making a spiritual Communion, not only in desire, but also by partaking, in the morning, of some Holy Water and also of some of the Antidoron.

This is the left over and Blessed Bread which is distributed toward the end of the Divine Liturgy - some parishes give communicants some of this Bread and warm water to wash down the Holy Communion.

It is Holy Bread, although not Communion, but should be treated with the utmost of respect when we bring it home with us.

It should be stored properly and at our icon shrine.

The Old Believers cover a special table with white cloth to place the Bread on.

We partake of this Holy Bread immediately following our morning prayer and prior to breakfast, to communicate on an empty stomach etc.

The Orthodox love this tradition, and it is strong among a number of Eastern Catholic Churches and parishes.

Alex
What a wonderful tradition! Thank you for explaining it to us. smile

And I love my Ukrainian-sounding name!!! biggrin

God Bless,

Janka

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Also ther is the artos/Thomas-bread from Pascha. Although it is really a Paschal food, many people keep some dried for when they are sick.

Spasi Khristos -
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Forgive me, Holy Father, and bless!

You are just a wealth of (Old) Believer traditions!

I'll remember to "Mark" that one especially!

Alex

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Okay, so it's Theotokos on the left, Christ on the right.
Traditionally, where should I place icons of:
The Trinity?
Angels?
Saints?
Events from the New Testament not about Christ or Mary?
Events from the Old Testament?

Thanks!
Guy

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Dear (Big) Guy wink

I've seen some place icons of the Trinity in the middle of the corner, but they can also go to the right.

Feast day icons, depending on whether they are for the Mother of God or the Lord can go either left or right.

Other saints and events can go wherever one has room!

Alex

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CHRISTOS VOSKRES!

Hi Guy!

I've done my corner with these ideas in mind but it's a little different. I also did mine according to the size of the ikons as well.

I have a small New Testatment Trinty at the top, then the Crucifix and 2 other crosses on each side, then LARGE Mother of God or St.Nicholas, with Archangels Michael and Gabriel on either side (the Novgorod ones where they are bowing from the Deisis tier). This ikon is the one that has the ikon scarf and my lampadka is attached to this one.

Underneath of this large ikon, I have 3 smaller ikons with oklads, Old Testament Trinity in the center, Our Saviour on the right and the Mother of God on the left.

On the bookcase underneath, I have a plate stand that I use for Feast Day ikons and a couple of older ikons that I have.

Hope this helps...

Will try to post a pic of my corner.

mark


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I've started my Icon corner! I have Vladimir, Mother of God, a Byzantine Icon Cross, and Christ the Teacher. I also bought a prayer card that has “Prayer to our Mother of Perpetual Help” on one side, and on the other an icon of "The Sorrowful Mother." This got me thinking (yes, I know that is a dangerous thing for me, lol) are there specific prayers for specific icons?

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in our icon corner we have: the theotokes, christ, st thomas the apostle (he's 150 yrs old! no worse for wear) david the forerunner (my roomate and i are both named david)as well as icons of the patrons of our doggies (basil, olga and anastasia) i have an ornate prayer rope hanging on the icon of christ, as well as a vervista hanging on the wall, my grandmother's roman rosary and the crucifix from her funeral as well as other crosses. a little eclectic you could say.

when i have attended orthodox liturgy i have been invited to partake of th eblessed bread after the blessing, even though i am not orthodox. i assumed this bread was symbolic of the agape feasts of the ancient church; also in some traditions i believe there was a custom of deacons feeding the poor after the liturgy; coul dthis also be an origin?

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