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In The Fatima Crusader article, Malachi Martin, a scholar, Vatican insider, and best-selling author, said, �Anybody who is acquainted with the state of affairs in the Vatican in the last 35 years is well aware that the prince of darkness has had and still has his surrogates in the court of St. Peter in Rome.�
From 1958 until 1964, Jesuit priest Malachi Martin served in Rome where he was a close associate of, and carried out many sensitive missions for the renowned Jesuit Cardinal Augustin Bea and the pope. Released afterwards from his vows of poverty and obedience at his own request (but still a priest), he ultimately moved to New York and became a best-selling writer of fiction and non-fiction.
Martin had first made reference to a diabolic rite held in Rome in his 1990 non-fiction best-seller about geopolitics and the Vatican, The Keys of This , in which he wrote:

"Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops� chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the �superforce.� Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI�s reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to �the smoke of which has entered the Sanctuary�. . . an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by ists in the Vatican. Besides, the incidence of �rites and practices� was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The ic acts of are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel�s rites." (p. 632)

These allegations have largely gone unnoticed, possibly because he was so crafty in his descriptions that he might even have been referring to the coronation of Pope Paul VI. But he revealed much more about this alleged ritual in one of his last works, Windswept House: A Vatican Novel (1996). In this story, he vividly described a ceremony called �The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer� supposedly held in St. Paul�s Chapel in the Vatican, but linked with concurrent rites here in the U.S., on June 29, 1963, barely a week after the election of Paul VI. In the novel, before he dies, a pope leaves a secret account of the situation on his desk for the next occupant of the throne of Peter, a thinly-disguised John Paul II.
According to The New American, Martin confirmed that the ceremony did indeed occur as he had described. �Oh yes, it is true; very much so,� the magazine reported he said. �But the only way I could put that down into print is in novelistic form.�
Martin's accusation of a ritual at the Vatican was also confirmed by John Loeffler, host of the Steel on Steel radio show. Mr. Loeffler personally asked Fr. Malachi Martin (who had been a regular guest on his show) about the reported dedication to within the Vatican:

"You know Malachi confirmed�the first part of his book, Windswept House�he confirmed the dedication of the Vatican to in a secret ceremony that occurred unknown even to the Pope at that time, that he managed to pick up. And I did ask him, 'Was this true? Did it happen?' And he [Fr. Martin] said, 'yes, it did.'" - John Loeffler (July 29, 2000 radio show)

Is there any truth to this, has anyone ever heard of this kind of thing before??

Dear Friend,

In my view, Martin has become the patron saint of all those "tradlats" who have yet to come to terms with Vatican II and who regard the slightest change to anything of the pre-Vatican II and Post-Tridentine Council Church of the West as heresy and the work of the evil one.

The Eastern Church has her Old Believers who likewise associated outward forms and theological expressions with the sum total of true belief and religious practice.

Alex

The Evil One always eagerly awaits entry wherever he can cause mischief � especially at the Vatican and anywhere where Christ reigns supreme. This does not mean that the gates of hell have or will ever prevail. Christ promised that they would not prevail.

As Alex pointed out, the account you have posted is a piece of well-written fiction.

Admin

Esteemed Administrator,

"Fiction" certainly, "well-written"? ...perhaps.

Elias

Bless me a sinner, Venerable Father in Carmel!

I apologise to the Administrator for not knowing the proper Forum etiquette in addressing him and omitting, quite unknowingly, the "Esteemed" in all my previous posts.

Please be assured that I shall correct that in all future posts, Venerable Father.

Kissing your right hand, I again implore your blessing,

Alex

Point taken. I agree with the Esteemed Hieromonk. It is better described as poorly written trash.

I was thinking of the excellent movie "Shoes of the Fisherman", which is one of my favorite movies. I was being overly generous in using the term "well-written" and I correct myself.

Esteemed brother, Alex,

No need to apologize!

To insert the adjective "esteemed" is not an etiquette, and not expected. Imitate it only if you wish.

For me, I highly regard the good work of the esteemed Administrator, and take the opportunity (not only on his name day but always) to remind him of this.

Elias

Bless me a sinner, Venerable Father in Carmel,

I will certainly use the "Esteemed" with respect to you-know-who in future - a great tradition and one which speaks of the kind of courtesy one would expect would exude to overflowing from participants in an admirable forum such as this!

As always, you set a standard for us all, Monk of Christ!

Kissing your right hand, I again implore your blessing,

Alex

Esteemed brother, Alex,

It is God who blesses you!

It is also clear that for all your usual perception and insight, you do not know me well. Those with more experience, and who have met me, or worked with me, will readily tell you the truth!

Elias

Venerable Father Elias,

Even your humility sets a perfect standard for us all . . .

Alex

by the way,,,am i wrong but is not the Fatima Crusader written and supported by that same Priest who was thrown out from rome? I tend to not listen to any of the Radical "end of the world...Masons have overtaken the church,,,Protestants are out to destroy us," people LOL

i would like to hear your comments after someone came into your "Eastern Catholic Church" and high jacked your "Divine Liturgy" riding it of it's Catholic aspects....just think about it.

Odo,

If your reference is to the Mass of Paul VI which was the result of Vatican II -- you need to withdraw your complaint. There was no "hijacking" -- just the Church doing what the Church is supposed to do.

Edward, deacon and sinner

[ 09-04-2002: Message edited by: FrDeaconEd ]

Dear Friends,

As I seem to have elicited a rather harsh reaction in some of you in what I've said here, I wanted to state it clear for the record.

I have nothing against the Tridentine liturgy and tradition.

I think I've made myself clear on that score and if there is any doubt, I'm sorry I don't know what else I can say to make myself clearer.

My comments on Martin have nothing to do with Catholic traditionalism, only with specific accusations against the Holy Catholic Church and the Pope that come from certain, although not always, traditionalist quarters - usually the schismatic variety or those on the brink of schism.

If anyone wishes to consider me a heretic, that's fine.

But I will defend the Catholic Church always and if that makes me a heretic - then tie me to the stake.

I would also appreciate it if those who so disagree with me and wish to hurl accusations at me do so here in public where the Administrator and the Moderators and the rest of the Members of this Forum Family may see them - and judge if I am being treated fairly and with Christian charity.

I have nothing more to say and I refuse to enter into any debate with those who e-mail me in private in this manner.

I am with the Catholic Church and with Pope John Paul II.

With whom are you?

Alex

Actually, I'm with God. (He said it was OK.)

As for secret rituals, one hears all sorts of stuff on this or that ritual. From my studies (I am a semanticist and semioticist by training), I have discovered that there are all sorts of 'ceremonies' that people perform. The major problem is that many folks can co-equate the 'ritual' (whatever it may be) with 'reality'. And that is just false. Rituals are merely symbolic words/gestures/behaviors that are meant to be PR for what a person believes. One is recalled of situations where someone makes a public vow (ritual) of marital commitment or of chastity/celibacy, or of poverty or obedience, but the life-actions are not in conformity with the public ritual. What is more real? Obviously, one can cant and ritualize from now till doomsday, but it is the behavior that is the true test.

So, I think that the whole "vatican consecration" "Satan", etc. needs to be lumped in with the Great Pumpkin, Punxsatawny Phil, Ichabod Crane, Scrooge, and that runty canine-wanna-be: "Yo quiero Taco Bell". All the result of waaaay too much garlic and beer shortly before going to bed.

It's remarkable that the whole demonology stuff arose in the West; there's no gargoyles in the East. It's part of the Western cultural mindset and perhaps it was useful to educate the medievals, but I think it is about time to give it a rest.

Once, when I was being berated for not kowtowing to this black-Mass and demons stuff, I abruptly raised up my hands, intoned a lot of Greco-Slavonic sounding jibberish, pointed my hands at the miscreant and solemnly intoned: "Now you're sterile!!"
In the ensuing shock, I made my getaway.

For those that do believe in this "the words are the reality" stuff, I'd suggest that you stay away from our buddy Alex. Ukrainian peasants have solemn curses that are, as I understand it, never to be written down since they are SOOOOOO powerful, even if they're not 'said', their mere presence on paper can do great harm. And I know that he has access to them.

Yours, in Harry Potter

J