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I am a high school senior who will be graduating on June 9th. On July 1 I will be entering the Society of Saint John Cantius was a postulant.

Yes, I'm a Latin. wink

The Society of Saint John Cantius is a very new order, founded not too long ago in Chicago. The Society is on its way to becoming an order of canon Regulars (and will be known as "The Canon Regulars of Saint John Cantius").

A canon regular is a monk who follows the Rule of Saint Augustine and is staffed at a parish church (our parish church is Saint John Cantius in Chicago).

The apostolate of the order is the "Restoration of the Sacred" in the Church, through a revival in the sacred liturgy and paraliturgical devotions. (And, of course, orthodox Catholic teaching!) Both the Novus Ordo and the Tridentine Mass are celebrated weekly, with full solemnity an often in a Pontifical High fashion (with one or more of Chicago's bishops). Solemn High Mass is celebrated every Sunday at 12:30 P.M.

(No, we are not schismatic. wink )

The Society's webpage is found here:

http://www.societycantius.org

The following is the "Brief Spiritual Autobiography" I was required to write and submit as part of the application process. It tells a lot about myself, and I think serves as an appropriate introduction:

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I hope to “briefly” (I use the term loosely) describe how it is that I came to be interested in a vocation in the Society of Saint John Cantius.

I was baptized a Catholic, and that is pretty much where my religious upbringing began and ended. I attended a Lutheran pre-school and a Baptist pre-school; I can recall little of any religious education I received there (not because it wasn't provided, but rather because it was so long ago). My dad can be best described as an agnostic, and my mother a liberal Protestant, although they have never assumed these titles formally. Until my third grade year, my prayer life was limited to petitions to Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny when the appropriate circumstances presented themselves. Even though I was never taught about God, faith, salvation, Jesus Christ, or any other article of Christian religion, I do recall sporadic instances in which I had seen religious iconography hanging in the walls of relatives" homes. Two images immediately come to mind: a crucifix in the home of one of my aunts, and, in my grandmother's bedroom, a rectangular framed picture, of the Sacred Hearts of Our Lord and Lady. I found the images both repulsive and mystifying. Undoubtedly, they sowed the seeds that would one day blossom in my calling to the consecrated life.

My first real encounter with my faith came about one evening at my grandmother's house. She had asked me to retrieve an article of jewelry from her dresser. While searching for the object, I stumbled upon what I would later find out was my uncle's old First Communion prayer book, from the 1950s. It was an ornate book, and I absolutely loved it. My grandmother told me I could keep it, and I quickly devoured it. It was not long before I memorized all the book's prayers, and even Holy Mass . . . in Latin! I learned the articles of the Christian faith: the Holy Trinity, Original Sin, Salvation, etc. I quickly abandoned the childhood myths I was brought up with and began having a real prayer life, a new life with God, His angels, His Saints, and His Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary. Still, it never really occurred to me that a spiritual life as a Christian could never be complete without attendance at the Sunday Eucharist; I had only really gone to church for Good Friday liturgy each year (it"s a Catholic tradition my mother just won"t give up). This would soon change.

One Sunday morning, when I was about ten years of age, I asked my mom to take me to church. Her reaction to my request was a question: “Which church?” I looked at her confusedly. “We're Christian, aren't we?” I asked. “Take me to a Christian church!” Again, she asked “Which one?” She then proceeded to explain to me, as best and simply as she could, the differences between Catholicism and the various Protestant denominations. To say I didn't know what she was talking about would be an understatement. How was I choose from so many? Finally, she said “Oh, and the non-Catholics don't have Saints.” Now it was my turn to respond, “Take me to the Catholic church!” Our Lady and the Saints had played such a vital role in my new prayer life; that, combined with my constant belief that death is not an ending, merely a passing, led me to believe firmly in the power of the Saints' intercessions; the “Communion of Saints” may very well be the most beautiful of the Church's dogmas, once all of its implications are grasped and understood.

My taste of Mass that Sunday (at Mother of Our Redeemer Church) in 1993 was nothing like what I had memorized from my prayer book. The Mass was in English, there was no “altar” facing East, but a “table” facing the congregation. There was no incense, no stained glass, no statues, no Sanctus bells, and hand-holding at the Pater Noster (or, rather, “Our Father&#8221 wink . The only part of the Mass familiar to my ears was the Greek Kyrie. I was confused by this difference of rite, not having been aware of the past liturgical changes from the Tridentine Rite to the Novus Ordo. Nevertheless, it was the first Mass that held any real meaning for me, and I enjoyed it; I soon began attending every week. At my own insistence, my siblings and I were enrolled in CCD classes; because I was already rather well learned in the faith, I was allowed to join my peers, rather than be “held back” to catch up on missed catechesis. When I was to enter the 6th grade, my parents enrolled me in a Catholic school, Our Lady of the Lakes (the public schools in Dade County just were not safe for a Caucasian male). During these two years, my relationship with God grew, as did my appreciation for the Catholic faith. I was soon Communicated and Confirmed. It was also a period of doctrinal confusion for me, as what I was being taught in school was in conflict with what I was being taught at home (this is not to imply that I did not have a moral upbringing; I certainly did.). For example, my parents are “pro-choice”, whereas the Church is ardently pro-life.

I continued at Our Lady of the Lakes through the 7th grade. My 8th grade year, my parents moved to Broward County, and I attended Silver Trail Middle (a public school). I quickly rebelled against the faith I had once adored. I came to the relativist conclusion that for any faith to claim to be the “true Church” was unrealistic and bigoted. I came to believe that all faiths were at an equal footing, and were all equally true. I stopped attending Mass and stopped praying (I still went through with Confirmation, however). It was not long before I saw the serious flaws in the ideology I had adopted (actually, a little more than a year).

For starters, if all belief systems were equally true, then would not this mean that Catholicism was true? If so, then how could I disagree with its claim to be the “true Church”? If I believed that such a claim was “intolerant and bigoted”, then wasn't I in fact conceding that the Catholic Church was in error? During this stage of religious rebellion, I did extensive research on comparative religion (sometimes by attending different places of worship; for the most part, through my reading). I soon found that my philosophy of “all religions are equally true” simply did not stand under rudimentary scrutiny or common sense. An example was my research on Islam, during which period I read the Koran. Now, the New Testament is absolutely emphatic in its declaration that Jesus is “the Son of the Living God”. The Koran, however, insists that all who say God has a Son are blasphemers and ignoramuses. How could Islam and Christianity be equally valid and true faiths? Either one was right, or both were wrong.

After a brief bout with witchcraft/voodoo, around the end of my 9th grade year at Stranahan High School, I repudiated my relativist ideology and decided to return to the Christianity I had once loved. But one question reverberated in my head, the one asked by my mother 6 years earlier: “Which Church”?

To make a long story short, I decided after much research to start re-practicing my Catholic faith; I resumed Mass attendance and the Sacrament of Penance, and for a little more than 2� years I have been practicing my faith on a regular basis (although for a brief period I considered conversion to the Orthodox Church). I quickly grew disenchanted with liturgical abuses at Mass, and became interested in the “traditionalist revival” movement in the Church (not the schismatic one). My inquiries have led me thus far to the Society of Saint John Cantius; I have heard nothing but good things of Saint John Cantius parish; it supposedly has the only good Novus Ordo Masses in the country, if not the world. I am excited about the prospect of perhaps one day celebrating the Liturgies of Saints Basil and John Chrysostom; my experiences with Orthodoxy and Byzantine Catholicism have given me an immense appreciation for the Church's Eastern patrimony. It is here that my “story” ends.

I am the first to admit (well, perhaps the second, or rather the tenth) that I am a man of many faults. I can be quite compulsive, sometimes to a fault. I have been told on much more than one occasion that I sometimes display a degree of immaturity; in how I honor authority, in how I sometimes lack consideration for the feelings of others, and in my frequent reluctance to admit my mistakes. I understand that these traits are totally incompatible with the monastic lifestyle. Fortunately, I also have been told that I have great potential for good. I, as well as others, consider myself to be both intellectually and spiritually mature beyond my years. I strongly believe that I have knack for helping others; maintaining strong, lasting friendships; and for serving the will of God. I see my negative points not as irrevocable components of my nature, but rather as kinks that will be worked out once I am placed in an environment which is conducive to the development of God's grace stirring within me. I believe that the Society of Saint John Cantius is that environment. (My father has told me that there are two institutions that will discipline a man: the military, and the Church.) At this moment I am no Francis of Assisi, but as the old Negro spiritual tells us, “A saint is just a sinner who fell down . . . and got up!” It is my firm conviction that God's grace has preserved me from much of the trials and corruptions of teenage life: sex, drugs, problems with the law, etc. And it is God's grace that will enable me to live the consecrated life to its fullest. I look forward to my postulancy with the Society of Saint John Cantius, and will certainly take full advantage of this period of discernment.

As you can see, I strongly considered, for a while, converting to the Orthodox Church (specifically, the Antiochene Church).

After much research (I mean much!) I decided to remain attached to the Bark of Peter, and remain a Catholic, as I became convinced that it is the Catholic Church that has retained the orthodox faith.

In large part, it was the lack of central authority in Orthodoxy, and the problems that follow it, that restrained me from converting.

I then considred becoming a Byzantine Catholic, but I decided that my calling was to remain in the Latin Church, and see to it that I live my Latin Christianity to its fullest, not in the muddled hog-washed way people (especially Modernists) typically perceive and experinece it.

I knew, even before I considered converting to Orthodoxy, that I was called to the monastic life, and I felt at home with the Society of Saint John Cantius, that my entire spiritual journey has been leading up to my membership in the order.

I don't know if I am called to the priesthood; I feel I am, but will leave this discernment to my superior. In two years, after I become a brother, I'll have a more definite answer. (I receive my habit [black cassok, white collar (not the same as a priest's}, black sash and roasary around the waist] after my postulancy ends, in about three months. Once I enter my novitiate [which lasts for two years] I'll be known as "Brother Eric".)

I do have a very high appreciation for Eastern Christianity and its rich liturgical and theological traditions. And I, too, am greatly troubled by Western Christian ignorance, from lack of understanding of Hesychasm or Theosis, to the reference to autonomous ritual Churches as "rites" ("Ukranian Rite", "Ruthenian Rite", etc.)

So I guess I'm just here to discuss and learn.

Hopefully, you all won't bite. ;-)

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My dear JC:

I'm deeply moved by your stirring rendition of your introduction!

From a Latin Rite Catholic to another, you are very welcome!!

Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!!!

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Glory to Jesus Christ!

A most heartfelt welcome John-soon to be Brother Eric!

I hope you find your participation here edifying and a source of support as you discern your vocation. You will find most everyone here friendly and tolerant, although we all have our days now and again.

In Christ,
Lance, deacon candidate


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Wow! Congratulations. And welcome. I enjoyed your autobiography. I empathize with where you are, although you probably sound more mature than I did at your age.

On graduating from 12 years of Catholic school, I was chrismated Orthodox, to the dismay of my Southern Baptist family, and the almost equal dismay of my Catholic high school teachers.

One of the latter finally said: "Fine. Go ahead and become Orthodox. But I don't know why you're bothering at this point. You'll all be in union with Rome in five or 10 years anyway."

:-) That was in 1982...

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DEar John,

Your story certainly is a moving one full of inspiration and truth. I myself, although starting out life as a Roman Catholic, ended up joining nearly every Christian denomination in existance before recently returning to the Catholic Church and seeking application to the Byzantine rite.

I most certainly can understand your personal quest for the true faith and am most certainly happy that you have found it in Catholicism. Like yourself, I also dislike the liberal relativism that has seeped into about every branch of our Church and consider myself a traditional Greek Catholic, always doing mmy best to fight off modernism and all other unappropriate isms that plague our faith. Also, I seem to have descerned a religious vocation to the priesthood which I hope may one day bear fruit for me. Remember to keep my in your prayers and mabye even offer up a decade of the beads in my honor.


May God bless you in your new vocation!

Robert K.

PS. By any chance, do you attend to St. John Cantius parish in Chicago?

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Hey,

Welcome to the forum. I find it amazing when the Scripture comes to mind that if we are faithful to God, he will be faithful to us for generations. You are the outcome of that faithfulness, those of your linage who were faithful to God in his Eucharistic Son, like your grandmother. To a parent your witness gives great strength to these words. We like to feel our children are strong in the Lord, but if for some reason they stray, God is sure to bring them back into the fold.

Thanks for your witness. One thing there is not a shortage of on the forum is gooooood teachers. Just ask and someone will have an answer.

Robert, have you talked with Fr. David or Sr. Margaret at the St. Cyril and Methodius Seminary?

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Dear John,

Welcome, as I said before!

It is intriguing that your society allows for the celebration of the Liturgy in other Rites. Does it do that now?

One thing I've always wondered about congregations and parishes who celebrate both the traditional AND the Novus Ordo liturgies - why do both?

Is the message that one somehow complements the other, that both "need each other" somehow?

Is it a question of serving people of two separate "Rite" orientations e.g. I prefer the Tridentine Liturgy so I'll follow it, and you can do your thing with the NO?

Just wondering.

Welcome, once again.

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Is it a question of serving people of two separate "Rite" orientations e.g. I prefer the Tridentine Liturgy so I'll follow it, and you can do your thing with the NO?

I'm sure that's part of it. But it goes a bit deeper.

We celebrate the Novus Ordo because it is the normative Rite of the Latin Church. We do not feel that it is in any way deffective. In fact, our Constitutions state that the Society will always celebrate the Tridentine Mass, as well as what happens to be the normative Rite of the Latin Church at the time. For now it is the Novus Ordo.

The Novus Ordo is also given just as much solemnity, just as much pomp and ceremony, as the Tridentine Mass. Indeed, it is not uncommon for visitors to mistake our Novus Ordos for a Solemn High Tridentine Mass!

Our reasons for continuing the celebration of the Tridentine Rite are because it is such an important part of our heritage as Latin Catholics. And the only way to preserve it is to celebrate it often!

We don't always have two different liturgies for every feast day. What I mean by that is that sometimes we celebrate a particular rite for a feast, and not the additional rite for it.

For example, our Easter Triduum liturgies this year were all from the Missal of Paul VI; the Tridentine Rite was not employed.

(However, Easter Morning Mass at 12:30 P.M. was a Solemn High Tridentine Mass.)

I hope I have answers your question satisfctorily?

And thank you all for your warm welcomes!

In Christ,

Eric

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Dear Eric,

What Daily Office do you follow? Is that something you alternate as well?

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Our Office is that of Paul VI.

That I know of, no indult has been given by Rome to allow any clergy or religious to celebrate the Tridentine Office; that I know of, it's been done away with.

We do alternate between Latin and English, though.


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