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Although most parishes have a tabernacle in the form of a church, I have seen some in the shape of a dove, suspended from the ceiling.
Can anyone give me more information about this?
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Bless Father
It's in my mind that some looooooong time back there was a thread on Tabernacles and the suspended dove ones were mentioned
Calling Diak and Orthodox Catholic - I ~ think ~ they posted on it
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The Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church of St Demetrius in Toronto ( Bellrose Ave, I believe) has a Dove suspended over the altar. They have had it for, I would say, at least 25 years. Possibly even more.
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Opps 135 LaRose Ave Web page: St. Demetrius the Great Martyr Parish Парафія Святого Димитрія Великогомученика Paroisse de Saint D�m�tre le Grand Martyr 135 LaRose Ave. Toronto ON M9P 1A6 Tel Number: 416-244-5333 Fax Number: 416-249-5204 E-mail: st.demetrius@sympatico.ca web: www.stdemetrius.org [ stdemetrius.org] Here is the other information: St. Demetrius the Great Martyr Parish Парафія Святого Димитрія Великогомученика Paroisse de Saint D�m�tre le Grand Martyr 135 LaRose Ave. Toronto ON M9P 1A6 Tel Number: 416-244-5333 Fax Number: 416-249-5204 E-mail: st.demetrius@sympatico.ca web: www.stdemetrius.org [ stdemetrius.org] http://www.stdemetrius.org/ Somewhere in the photo gallery you'll find a shot fo the tabernacle. Sorry, I have no idea of how to make pictures appear here. I still do wall painting of dinosaurs!!!!!!!! Sorry Nycholaij
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Just me again. I saw my reply and said " Oh my Lord!" Can you tell that I am a bit usless with the computer?
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Found the photo and took a snapshot (with 'SnagIt' - great program). [ Linked Image] ~Isaac
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Here are the 2 old threads.
https://www.byzcath.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001417
https://www.byzcath.org/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=002022
It looks like there are a few known parishes that have them. I am still wondering where this tradition came from, and where one could aquire one.
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I am still wondering where this tradition came from, and where one could aquire one.
Fr. Bo The Dove Tabernacle is apparently an ancient practice from the time of Constantine as noted in the quote below (complete entry at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tabernacle ). In early Christianity, priests and even lay people took bread consecrated at their Eucharistic celebrations to their homes, in order to give it to the sick and others unable to attend the celebration. But when the Peace of Constantine ended persecution, the practice was established of keeping the Eucharist only in churches and no longer in people�s homes.
The preferred container then had the form of a (usually gold) dove within a (usually silver) tower. There is mention of a gift of these two vessels, both of gold and adorned with 250 white pearls, that the Emperor Constantine gave to Saint Peter�s Basilica in Rome, and of silver towers and golden doves given to particular churches by Pope Innocent I and Pope Hilary. ~Isaac
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Here is the one at Mt. Tabor CA: [ Linked Image] and here is another: (from the Byz. Carmelites I think) [ Linked Image]
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Yes, this is an ancient practice indeed. In fact, this is an old tabernacle. It's called an ambry.
The tabernacle actuallly was originally used as a holding for the Communion for the Sick.
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We have one in the chapel at Church. Off to the side of the Church there is a wonderful chapel. Use to be on feast days and such that is all we used, there were many there. NOW!!!! On those days the Church is about halfway full.
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I have been looking for one (like Mt. Tabor's) for my parish but I have not been able to find one on the net. Do any of you know where one can be found? --- I googled the term "ambry" and it gave me the following: Ambry: A closet or chest wherein the holy oils are kept on church property, usually attached to the wall of the sanctuary. Was this term originally used for a tabernacle or is it just for oils? Fr. Bo
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I will ask my supplier if they have them.
Surely in Thesoloncia they are there.
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Fr. Bo,
Using Google, I get the most hits with the term "Eucharistic Dove" which appears to be a common name for these tabernacles. I also have been trying to locate one for purchase - if you happen to find a source, please let the rest of us know.
~Isaac
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Father Bo- An ambry/aumbry, in Roman usage, is a storage cabinet for the oils in a church. Many Episcopal churches have the Reserved Sacrament in secured wall cabinets they call an ambry/aumbry inside the sanctuary of the church. (St. Thomas on 5th Ave in NYC comes to mind). I think that the term can be used interchangably as a cabinet for the oils or the Sacrament. John K. Originally posted by Kadylo: I have been looking for one (like Mt. Tabor's) for my parish but I have not been able to find one on the net. Do any of you know where one can be found?
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I googled the term "ambry" and it gave me the following:
Ambry: A closet or chest wherein the holy oils are kept on church property, usually attached to the wall of the sanctuary.
Fr. Bo
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