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#58711 04/22/02 11:13 AM
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I was talking to someone the other night, and we got on the subject of your (Byzantine) Divine Office (I seem to talk a lot about you guys these days... :p ). It seems you guys use a lot of books! I'm interested in knowing what is the minimum number of books a person would have to have in order to fully celebrate at least Matins and Vespers daily, and which ones are they? Include the other liturgical hours into the calculation if you're feeling lucky. smile Thanks!

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Dear Catholicos,

It would depend on how much of the propers were contained in the particular liturgical books one had at one's disposal.

For the Office, one would need something like the Unabbreviated Horologion published by Jordanville for starters.

Then the Lenten Triodion and Pentecostarion books for these two liturgical seasons.

Then the Psalter and New Testament of course.

Then the Menologion for the daily propers for Matins, Vespers and the Typika.

These are what I use to get through the Horologion but I'm sure there are more books that could be used for a greater detailed celebration.

Alex

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Geez. Sounds simpler and less expensive to be Syrian... smile

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Dear Catholicos,

It is possible to do the Horologion with fewer books or with a kind of Breviary that one often sees published, e.g. that published by Holy Transfiguration Monastery.

But I understand that the Syriac books, both East and West, can be a hefty enterprise as well!

When it comes to cost for us Byzantines, money is never an object! smile

Just ask our wives who often plead with us not to buy any more religious books or icons.

With a new mortgage, my wife need not plead any longer . . .

Now I can actually start to read what I've accumulated over the years! smile

Alex

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But I understand that the Syriac books, both East and West, can be a hefty enterprise as well!

This is true, this is true...touche! smile

Due to the generosity of a friend, as you know, I've been spared much expense in this department. My hope is that someday soon I'll be able to find a book (Syrian) that has Matins and the Hours, or at least Matins, for the days of the year, rather than use the common weekday offices for Matins. I don't know how hopeful I should be, though...either way, I've still got to work on waking up on time. cool

Incidentally, do you know where one can find the East Syriac offices? I'd be interested in seeing those...figured since you brought up East and West, you might know.


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