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#59196 02/01/02 08:05 AM
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Good Morning All,

Please excuse my ignorance .... when a Catholic in the Latin Rite dies a Mass is held at which the casket is present; prayers are said over the casket; a procession of cars proceeds to the cemetery; more prayers are said over the casket as it sits over the grave site.

Is this the same procedure under the Byzantine rite?

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Loretta

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Yup.

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Dear Loretta,

Glory to Jesus Christ!

Sharon is right, and that the majority of Byzantine Funerals in America consist primarily in a celebration of the Divine Liturgy.

However, traditionally the actual funeral service is a kind of Matins service, at which hymns, canons, and litanies for the departed are sung. American practice is to incorporate some of this service into the Divine Liturgy.

But there are occasions where the older form still is celebrated, and some occasions when it must be celebrated. For example, there are certain "a-liturgical" days, when the Divine Liturgy may not be celebrated in the Byzantine Catholic Church. On these days, the funeral is taken alone without the Divine Liturgy. Or even I have heard of communion being given from the reserved mysteries as in the Liturgy of the Pre-Sanctified Gifts. Also on feasts, when the Festal Liturgy must be celebrated. It is not possible to combine aspects of the funeral Matins into a Feast Day Liturgy. In that case the older form of celebrating the Feast's Liturgy, and then at another time, the Funeral service without Liturgy is maintained.

As always, it seems liturgical questions in the Byzantine Church are complicated. But I wanted to indicate, that the funeral traditions do differ a little from the Roman Catholic tradition, where the "Funeral Mass" offered for the departed is the primary funeral service.

Elias, monk

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In the Melkite parish I attend there was a discussion after the Divine Liturgy this past Sunday on this very topic.

The guestion was, why does the funeral service not include the celebration of the Divine Liturgy any more?

Fr Ken, the pastor, has explained that they have stopped doing this in order to celebrate a more traditional service.

My guess is that this is the traditional funeral service that Fr Elias is speaking of.


David

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