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Latinization? Go to the chapel at the Holy Annunciation Monastery in Sugarloaf... very, VERY Byzantine and absolutely gorgeous. I love the dome, and the frescos of "the Bread of Life" and of St. Therese (by the renowned Greek Orthodox iconographer Constantine Yiousis).

I've recently had the fortune of visiting this monastery twice in about a month. While belonging to the Carmelite Order, I do believe Mother Marija has made a very harmonious blend with Byzantine monasticism. I wouldn't hurl the accusation of "Latinization" until you visit them.

As I've said in another thread on this forum, you can view the "orders" as "typikons" in the Byzantine mindset. So instead of the "typikon of the Studion" or the "typikon of Saint Basil" you have the "typikon of Saint Francis" or the "typikon of Carmel"... see, all kosher.

Just worry about the one needful thing, not what kind of koukoulion or klobuk they wear.

-Dave

Dear Remi:

What do you mean by"Latinization". Have you been to a Byzantine Rite monastery? The Pope at the time asked these various religious orders to help with evangilizing the Eastern Rite. These orders came forward with volunteers who leartn the language and the ligurgy. Many of them have now passed on and are elderly. They are Byzantinations of Latin rite communities, not vis versa.

Mike:

I've not been in a byzantine catholic monastery, I've visited small communities of Orthodox monks here. Here the only Byzcath eparchy is the Melkite one, and they only have a bishop and 3 priests (two of them with families, non monastic). Britain has many Eastern monasteries, but I never visited them.

The fact is that the "orders" are not an Eastern tradition, but what you said about the typikon is very interesting, I think it can work like that.

Hmm -

does Britain = England here ?

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