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#64005 02/09/06 11:17 PM
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Sam,
I was just "confirmed" in the Ukrainian Catholic church on New Year's Day. I was baptized in the Roman Catholic church when I was an infant and then I was a member of a Protestant church for 11(I think!) years. My parents are still members of that congregation. So it is possible to be "confirmed", or chrismated, in the eastern church if you are Roman Catholic.
I had an interesting situation being basically Protestant when I joined the Ukrainian church. However, sometimes Rcs and Easterners accuse each other of stealing Christians from one lung of the church in favor of the other. Kind of a sticky situation...Not sure what my point there is...I'm having trouble keeping my train of thought right now! :-)
I just thought that I would share my experience with you to see if that would help...
God bless,
Sarai

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Teen it is good to know the teachings of the church but it is also important to know and understand how they can be and are misused by some, such as fringe Latin individuals and groups to suite their own agendas. That particular phrase has been misused in particular.

shocked I must say that some recent postings by some RCs on this site have shocked me with their agressive tone, intemporate language and insensitivity to those of the Venerable Orthodox Churches who also frequent this site.

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Sarai:

Welcome to our UKrainian Catholic "family".

God grant you many happy, healthy and blessed years!

Mnohaya Lita!

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Originally posted by Pavel Ivanovich:
I must say that some recent postings by some RCs on this site have shocked me with their agressive tone, intemporate language and insensitivity to those of the Venerable Orthodox Churches who also frequent this site.

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Pavel,

Many Latin Catholics mistakenly identify being Catholic with being Roman, but the fact that a Latin Catholic comes here and asks questions about the spiritual, liturgical, and doctrinal patrimony of the Eastern Churches should be taken as a sign that he wants to know more about the East. In other words, it should be taken as a sign that he wants to know more about how the mystery of God incarnate is experienced by Eastern Christians. Now, it may happen that a Latin formulates his questions in a way that seems aggressive, but we should not assume aggression on his part, but simply curiosity.

Blessings to you,
Todd (the former Latin Catholic) wink

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Forgive me if this was answered in the same capactiy as my should be in bed self is about to write.
Let's say we have a hypothetical woman named Svetlana.
Svetlana grew up Anglican. She was baptized, confirmed and even knew the secret handshake.
When Svetlana turned oh, 23 years old she started dating Ivan. Ivan went to the Byzantine Catholic church.
Svetlana started attending on a regular basis. She had felt empty over at the CofE for a long time.
After attending for many months she decides to become a Byzantine Catholic.
Plus, Ivan had bought her the biggest rock this side of Stone Mountain and they planned to wed sometime next Fall.
So she loves the Byzantine Catholic church. She has no desire to become Roman Catholic, she doesn't want to be Anglican anymore. Plus being able to attend Liturgy with Ivan and raise kids in the parish adds to her love of the Byzantine Catholic Church(which is trully based on her love of God first).
Now, what would Fr. John Doe do? Would he properly instruct her on things Byzantine Catholic and then Chrismate her, hear her confession and then give her Holy Communion?
Reminding you that she in no way wants to be Roman Catholic. She doesn't want to go to RCIA at the Roman parish across town. She wants to receive instructions and preperation from Fr. Doe.
I think she could fully do this, and the priest therefore would be able to confirm/chrismate her into the Byzantine Catholic Church.
Ok, I'm going to bed now. I can't imagine in this scenario that Svetlana would have to be re-baptized as she was baptized in the Episcopalian Church.
I am expecting someone to toss out a canon law cite that says she should be recieved into the Roman Catholic Church first. Remeber she doesn't want to and I am pretty sure she doesn't have to be.

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Well Svetlana would need to produce a baptismal certificate to prove she had been baptised validy by the Anglicans to Fr Doe C, Doesky. If he has any doubts he would conditinally baptise her. Next he would then proceed to chrismate her. All very simple. Fr Doesky did the same for Doris and Mick the couple from the middle East the week before who were also strangely Anglicans (very low church).

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