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Hi!!! Dominus vobiscum. Greetings in the Lord Jesus!!!
Thank you for sharing that information!!! God bless that Priest!!! That is really sad!!!
God bless!!!
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Well, that's nothing new. This hasn't been the first case and it sure won't be the last either.
I guess we just have to get used to it. The Vatican really can't do anything about it either.
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Originally posted by lpreima:
Well, that's nothing new. This hasn't been the first case and it sure won't be the last either.
I guess we just have to get used to it. The Vatican really can't do anything about it either.
Lauro The Vatican can send in "secret" priests as they reportedly had done in the past to many places under Communist rule. I understand that the Jesuits had several such priests in Cuba. They're probably still active in China and Vietnam. This situation in Russia really speaks volumes about what the Moscow Patriarch is made of...he was formed under Soviet rule, and his behavior towards Russian and Ukrainian Catholics has been shameful!
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Actually in Cuba, the status of the Roman Catholic Church is very similar to that of the Moscow Patriarchate under the Soviet rule. I knew that priests from the Roman Church enjoy preferencial treatment while other denominations are ilegal (specially Protestant ones). I deplore the communist regime and its evil dictator but it's not bad that Protestantism is not penetrating that society is it has done in other Latin American nations.The Orthodox have some parishes in Cuba and don't have problems.
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I love Ave Maria's upbeatedness!
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Dear Friends,
My own personal view on the matter is that this is sad.
However, I think it is a form of just retribution on the Vatican for its years of
promoting "Ostpolitik" with Moscow often to the detriment of the Ukrainian Catholic Church and people, its treatment of Patriarch Josef the Hieroconfessor etc.
Somehow Rome has this vision, which is several hundred years old, that it will somehow be able to get the Moscow Patriarchate to join in union with itself, accept the Pope etc.
To paraphrase Elmer Fudd, "They don't know dem vewy well, do they?"
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Russian Catholic mission doesn't regard expulsion of Polish priest as infringement
MOSCOW. Feb 25 (Interfax) - The refusal of the Russian authorities to prolong the residence permit of Polish priest Bronislaw Chaplitski should not be regarded as an infringement on the rights of Catholics, the Catholic Bishops Confederation in Russia believes.
���"In this case the problem is purely technical," secretary general of the confederation Igor Kovalevsky told Interfax on Tuesday. "Father Bronislaw was denied a residence permit and prescribed to leave the country, but this does not mean he was deported," Kovalevsky said.
���He said Chaplitski shares this opinion.
���After returning to Poland father Bronislaw can apply for a visa at the Russian consulate, he said.
���"We have no reason to regard the fact as an infringement on the rights of Catholics and compare it with previous expulsions of Catholic clergymen," Kovalevsky said.
���In 2002 five Catholic priests were denied the right to work in Russia. [RU EUROPE EEU EMRG REL PL] ml aw <>
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This has been Nikolai's 200th post.
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Dear Nikolai, Thanks for clearing that up, Big Guy! We were all starting to get worried about it as being indicative of a nasty trend over there!  Thanks for putting our minds at rest. Now we can get back to Augustine . . . God bless you, especially in what must be these exciting weeks of anticipation! Alex
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However, I think it is a form of just retribution on the Vatican for its years of promoting "Ostpolitik" with Moscow often to the detriment of the Ukrainian Catholic Church and people, its treatment of Patriarch Josef the Hieroconfessor etc.
Cliche, but two wrongs don't make a right. ChristTeen287
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Dear "My Rome - love it or lump it" ChristTeen  I fail to see how this is a "cliche." Frankly, would I guess right if I said you've no idea about the historic situation between Rome, Moscow and the Ukes? And two wrongs don't make a right. But one wrong can be a punishment for another wrong. Some good can be drawn out of every situation . . . Alex
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Dear "My Rome - love it or lump it" ChristTeen Oooh I like the title, but it's everyone's Rome! I fail to see how this is a "cliche." Well, it's an overly used expression.  Frankly, would I guess right if I said you've no idea about the historic situation between Rome, Moscow and the Ukes? Absolutely! I don't even pretend to know the basics! And two wrongs don't make a right.
But one wrong can be a punishment for another wrong. Yes, one wrong can be a punishment for another wrong. But my position still remains that this isn't right (because obviously it's already been established that it's wrong). Some good can be drawn out of every situation . . . Yes, but that doesn't permit us to use wrong. ChristTeen287
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