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Hi Two Lungs!
The closest Ukrainian Catholic Church is St. Nicholas in Wilmington Delaware. It is a beautiful church which we attended before we moved to Pennsylvania.
It would be close to an hours drive each way which isn't a problem for me but when you throw in the "children" factor I am sure to get alot of resistance from the kids. One gets car sick and the other hates long drives :-(. Guess I am caught between a rock and a hard place :-(. Seems like right now my best bet might be to go Orthodox.
To Moe...I think if you understood the situation your response would be different....the questionable web site has already been taken off the internet but you can still do a "Google" search for "JPWA" and get an idea what has been going on!!! Didn't someone important say something about truth and light not being kept hidden under a basket???? Let's turn the lights on!!!!! The man has no shame or sorry for what he did only that he got caught! If he's not ashamed of what he did what's there to hide???
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Hi Jim, You have my sympathy and prayers. I your best choice might be Orthodox, if St. Nicholas is closest to you. I thought there might be a closer Church than that. Traveling with kids can be diffucult. But you have to protect your kids. For those who aren't aware, this link explains some of the story. http://www.kansas.com/mld/timesleader/news/local/3392679.htm John Pilgrim and Odd Duck
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Jim,
I heard a widespread rumor that prior to his retirement in August, Bishop Andrew is going to transfer almost all of the priests in his eparchy. Is this true? If this is the case, then the priest in question will be serving a different parish very soon. Has anyone heard more about this?
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Transfer all the priests? What could be the rationale for that???
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Anthony,
I don't have any idea what going to happen but if there is a transfer I hope you have better luck than we did.
My wife called the local Orthodox church today and left a message on their answering machine.
Once we get some details, I am sure we will be attending.
I want to thank everyone for their help and support. This forum has allot of "quality" people!!!
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Originally posted by Dragani:
Jim,
I heard a widespread rumor that prior to his retirement in August, Bishop Andrew is going to transfer almost all of the priests in his eparchy. Is this true? If this is the case, then the priest in question will be serving a different parish very soon. Has anyone heard more about this?
Anthony Gotterdamerung? Twilight of the Clods? Samson pulls down the temple? I've given up trying to predict the man's thought processes. All I know is that I will be glad to see the back of him, and that even Rome will have a hard time finding someone worse.
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Read your posts, looked at the urls posted and can't see why so upset? Yes, it may look a bit suspicious in light of other things happening in the Church today, BUT no evidence of wrong doing was found, it could just as easily be totally innocent as he claims and is nothing more than a lapse in good judgement on the priest's part. Sounds to me like you are being too judgemental and probably just looking for trouble. If you have concerns, then deal with them. You don't want the priest around your kids, then keep them away from him...you can do that without abandoning your parish. Your parish is your family, do you abandon your family because Uncle George drinks to much and is a jerk? Do you write off your son because he turns out gay? Or your daughter because she sleeps around too much? Heck, your priest hasn't even been accused of doing anything wrong from what the artcles you produced show...more questioned about something showing a lack of judgement? I think you need to grow up.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by anamchristi:
[QB]Read your posts, looked at the urls posted and can't see why so upset? Yes, it may look a bit suspicious in light of other things happening in the Church today, BUT no evidence of wrong doing was found, it could just as easily be totally innocent as he claims and is nothing more than a lapse in good judgement on the priest's part.<<<
Take my word for it--it isn't. There's a whole lot of history here of which you aren't aware, and which I am not willing to discuss in public.
>>>Sounds to me like you are being too judgemental and probably just looking for trouble.<<<
Actually, the problem is that too many people have been too non-judgemental for far too long.
>>>If you have concerns, then deal with them. You don't want the priest around your kids, then keep them away from him...you can do that without abandoning your parish. Your parish is your family, do you abandon your family because Uncle George drinks to much and is a jerk?<<<
When your father is abusive, and you can't do anything to stop it, it's time to leave home.
>>>Do you write off your son because he turns out gay? Or your daughter because she sleeps around too much? Heck, your priest hasn't even been accused of doing anything wrong from what the artcles you produced show...more questioned about something showing a lack of judgement? I think you need to grow up.<<<
You need to smell the coffee.
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Stuart, sadly many people will just blindly follow :-(. We are dealing with facts not a bunch of fuzzy maybes. The man was proud of HIS web site showing guys in pornographic positions this is a FACT!!!
So anyway as an update on my situation, I found out that in order to recieve communion in the Orthodox church the priest there wants us to become Orthodox first. Now this means to me that I will have to give up my Catholic faith :-( to raise my family properly, or I can go to the RC church :-( but that thought makes me ill :-(.
I am kind of in a hopeless situation but for some strange reason I think God has NOT abandoned me and with time the answer will become clear :-).
The more my life story plays out sometimes I just have to laugh at God's sense of humor ;-). It's SAD but I can still laugh about it :-)
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Originally posted by jim58:
I want to thank everyone for their help and support. This forum has allot of "quality" people!!! Thank you, Jim, You are, of course, welcome to stick around on the Forum. -------------------------- Originally posted by stuartk:
Gotterdamerung? Twilight of the Clods? Samson pulls down the temple? Stuart, Maybe "twirling of the whirling dervishes?"  Somewhere between crying and cursing, we do need to laugh occasionally. You are also, of course, welcome to stick around on the Forum.  John Pilgrim and Odd Duck
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Jim 58, Would you consider a temporary leave of absence? If what Stuart says is true about a whole lot of history behind it, with a new Bishop coming your way even if there are alot of transfers, he will probably feel compelled to do something about it. I think Met. Basil will want it straightened out too. In the new issue of Horizons they have the new guide lines.Go to www.parma. [ parma.] org. I think they will give you reason to wait this out a bit. Nicky's Baba
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My apologies,
I just checked they don't have the June 23rd. issue posted yet. It should be up soon.
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Jim,
Hold on. Don't make a major decision like that while you are upset. Take some time and let things settle out. God will guide you in His time.
Take a break, prioritize, think about what is important and what is real. This situation could change in a heartbeat. An impulsive decision could cause confusion and have serious impact on your family.
Dragani had a good idea. Go to the Orthodox church if you want, and receive the Eucharist in a RC church. Use summer break to explore with your kids. You don't have to make a permanent decision today.
It will be ok. Pray about it. Trust God.
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Originally posted by jim58:
Stuart, sadly many people will just blindly follow :-(. We are dealing with facts not a bunch of fuzzy maybes. The man was proud of HIS web site showing guys in pornographic positions this is a FACT!!!<<<
I know. I have had people write to me privately, in real anguish, asking what they could do. They had informed the bishop, and he ignored them.
>>>So anyway as an update on my situation, I found out that in order to recieve communion in the Orthodox church the priest there wants us to become Orthodox first.<<<
Write to me privately, and I will give you some contacts. Normally, the Greeks are pretty strict, but Ukrainians and the Carpatho-Rusyn are more flexibile.
>>>Now this means to me that I will have to give up my Catholic faith :-( to raise my family properly, or I can go to the RC church :-( but that thought makes me ill :-(.<<<
Actually, you don't give up anything except your communion with the Bishop of Rome, but that may not be necessary, as I said. Nil desperandum, to use a latinism.
>>>I am kind of in a hopeless situation but for some strange reason I think God has NOT abandoned me and with time the answer will become clear :-).<<<
It will. Hold fast.
>>>The more my life story plays out sometimes I just have to laugh at God's sense of humor ;-). It's SAD but I can still laugh about it :-) <<< A good attitude can really help in getting through the dark night.
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O.K. for now I am just going to wait things out and see what happens. Once again THANK YOU everyone for all your support. Stuart thanks for your offer I will keep it in mind. Thank God for this forum too!!!
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