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The Episcopalian (Anglican) diocese of California has proposed two active homosexuals (i.e., they are actively living the homosexual lifestyle) as candidates to replace the retiring bishop. One is a lesbian; the other is a gay man.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/12/nlesbian12.xml

It is things like this that, by contrast, help to underscore the importance of manintaining traditional standards and values in the Church.

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They seem to be out to destroy themselves. Does not sound as if there is anything worth saving here. If there are any Chrisitans among them I hope they find somewhere else to go and soon.

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God have mercy on their souls!

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No doubt Barbara Harris will enjoy the company.

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I hate to say it. But in my opinion the Anglican Church is seriously distorted. To the point of not even being considered christian. Just my point of view. No flamewars please.

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Same old stuff. This isn't newsworthy. Dog bites man.

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Normally, I do not have much interest in articles like this and generally do not read them. Unfortunately, after reading the article I had to reread it again. I actually know one of the candidates, Rev. Taylor, when he was the pastor of an inner-city Episcopal parish in the area. He made no bones about his orientation then (almost 15 years ago), and he definitely did not have any use for the traditional church from my recollection.

The ordination of either candidate will definitely cause an already volatile situation in the Episcopal Church over the edge, which may force the US Church out of the Anglican Communion. Let us see if it goes forth and what the fallout will be.

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I have said for some time, that the only things holding the U.S. Episcopal Church together are land, and pension plans. A traditional Anglican congregation has formed in my area - for the second time. The first group converted to Orthodoxy a few years ago.

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The first group converted to Orthodoxy a few years ago.
Well Charles this group y'all can bring into the Eastern Catholic Church biggrin

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Originally posted by Pani Rose:
[b]The first group converted to Orthodoxy a few years ago.
Well Charles this group y'all can bring into the Eastern Catholic Church biggrin [/b]
Now there's a pleasing thought! biggrin

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Dear Friends,

As much as I love the EC Churches, but with all the trouble we've had with Rome and with our "Roman bishops" - do we seriously wish that on our recently converted (from Anglicanism) Orthodox brothers and sisters?

I ask this in all sincerity.

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Well, Alex, who has treated the Ukrainians worse, Rome or Moscow?

And there is a word for contemporary Episcopalianism: apostasy. Let's quit beating around the bush and use it.
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Dear father Daniel,

One could ask that if Moscow has undoubtedly treated the UGCC worse, then why does Rome appear to support Moscow so much?

But I'm asking why, when former Anglicans become Orthodox, we EC's, with all we have gone through with Rome, have the temerity to encourage them to become EC.

Why can't we just be happy that they've become Orthodox without attaching a proviso to our congratulations?

Are we truly ecumenical toward the Orthodox, or are we, as many Orthodox suspect, simply out to convert the Orthodox to Rome?

Also, I know Catholic school-teachers, who teach religion, who tell their students that Christ's miracles weren't really "miracles" and that they were misinterpreted etc.

Other Catholic teachers who appear to be teaching Hindu and New Age practices. I know because I've seen with my own eyes.

Are these also not "apostates" and right within the Catholic Church?

I know Episcopalians who are quite "High Church" as well and not all such are "apostates." Some choose to become RC and others, Orthodox, while others stay within their church and hope and pray things will change.

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Dear father Daniel,

One could ask that if Moscow has undoubtedly treated the UGCC worse, then why does Rome appear to support Moscow so much?

But I'm asking why, when former Anglicans become Orthodox, we EC's, with all we have gone through with Rome, have the temerity to encourage them to become EC.

Why can't we just be happy that they've become Orthodox without attaching a proviso to our congratulations?

Are we truly ecumenical toward the Orthodox, or are we, as many Orthodox suspect, simply out to convert the Orthodox to Rome?

Also, I know Catholic school-teachers, who teach religion, who tell their students that Christ's miracles weren't really "miracles" and that they were misinterpreted etc.

Other Catholic teachers who appear to be teaching Hindu and New Age practices. I know because I've seen with my own eyes.

Are these also not "apostates" and right within the Catholic Church?

I know Episcopalians who are quite "High Church" as well and not all such are "apostates." Some choose to become RC and others, Orthodox, while others stay within their church and hope and pray things will change.

Alex
Perhaps because Moscow represents the largest Orthodox population in the world?

And of course there are apostates in the Catholic Church, though they no longer control as much of the bureaucracy as they once did. THe difference is that the leaders of the Church are not apostate, and the Episcopal hierarchy for the most part are.
And of course there are many good and faithful Anglicans; I was not speaking of them at all! God bless them!
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Dear Daniel,

Yes, God bless them!

Alex

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