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Dear Logos Teen,
I know that you and others on this forum don't use Novus Ordo in a derogatory way. NO has become the popular term and as you said, an abreviation for the Mass of Pope Paul VI.
I don't like "Novus Ordo" because to me it implies that the current Eucharistic Liturgy in the Latin Church is "new" when it is the same as the ancient form, albeit, renewed according to the directives of V2.
The other objection I have to NO is that it sounds a lot like "New Age" which is completeley at odds with the Catholic Faith.
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Presumably one could refer to the Missale Paulinum or something similar. But "Novus Ordo" is a convenient term for the whole complex of services produced after Vatican II - not just the Mass. Incognitus
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Presumably one could refer to the Missale Paulinum or something similar. But "Novus Ordo" is a convenient term for the whole complex of services produced after Vatican II - not just the Mass. Incognitus Yes, I suppose people could say "Missale Paulinum," but then it'd be abbreviated "MP" and then people might confuse it with that uppity patriarchate, ohhh what's its name??!  Logos Teen
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A suggestion: Always simply say "Mass" or "Holy Mass" when referring to the "Novus Ordo" and when you wish to talk about the "Old" or "Tridentine" or "Old Latin Mass" use one of those terms, like "The Traditional Latin Rite" or some such, and people will know what you mean. Just like they'll also know just what you mean when you refer to a church that has the "Mass" as a "Roman Catholic church" - isn't that simple? There is really no need to refer to it as "Novus Ordo" unless you are in a conversation where you're constantly comparing rites and so on..... a long paragraph for a small suggestion! Sorry! C of S 
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Although this has absolutely nothing to do with an Eastern Christian forum, the term Novus ordo was the title of the working draft of the Mass promulgated by Pope Paul VI. For those who say it is often used as a pejorative, that is correct. It is, of course, a meaningless term today since "the Mass of Paul VI" is the official title of that Mass.
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Originally posted by Communion of Saints: A suggestion:
Always simply say "Mass" or "Holy Mass" when referring to the "Novus Ordo" and when you wish to talk about the "Old" or "Tridentine" or "Old Latin Mass" use one of those terms, like "The Traditional Latin Rite" or some such, and people will know what you mean. Just like they'll also know just what you mean when you refer to a church that has the "Mass" as a "Roman Catholic church" - isn't that simple? There is really no need to refer to it as "Novus Ordo" unless you are in a conversation where you're constantly comparing rites and so on.....
a long paragraph for a small suggestion! Sorry!
C of S C of S, I agree with you. I call Mass, Mass, or Holy Mass. This other stuff is when people get technical about it. KISS = Keep it short and simple. Like FrDeaconEd said, we are off topic. Paul
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