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How come the Bishop of the Eparchy of Van Nuys,
His Grace + Bishop William Surkla, doesnt get to vote in the Papal Conclave?
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I just realized my stupid question when i was going to sleep.
I wonder if the Eastern Rite Catholics due get to vote in the papal conclave.
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Dear Daniel,
Ultimately, it matters not whether Eastern Cardinals vote for a new Pope of Rome or not.
We are not part of his Patriarchate, Metropolia or Episcopal See.
We are only in communion with whoever is the Pope of Rome.
It makes no difference to us in about 95% of everything that affects our Churches.
Alex
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Mega Ditto to what Alex "OC" said!!!
We don't vote in their conclave,AND THEY DON'T VOTE IN OURS!
That's the way I think it should work!
Otherwise there would not be inter-communion of Churches, but only a unity by submission to one authority.
Herb
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The Pope of Rome appoints our Ruthenian bishops we should be allowed to vote for theirs.
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Daniel-
A Bishop doesn't have a vote in a papal conclave!
Cardinals vote for the pope. Cardinals are appointed by the Pope. There have been Eastern Catholic Cardinals- in fact at the present time there are 5, with 4 under the age of 80, eligible for papal elections. The only way, the Eastern Church can get a vote, is they need to be a Cardinal or if the rules were changed to allow Patriarchs to vote also.
The Byzantine Church( Ukrainian & Carpo-Rus) don't have a Patriarchs. The Ukrainians have a Major Archbishop, who is a Cardinal
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Actually, if I may be so bold as to make a slight correction, the Holy Synod has designated that the Chief Hierarch of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church a "Patriarch".
And His Beatitude, Kyr Lubomyr, has officially permitted of the public commemoration of him in liturgical celebrations as "Patriarch".
Almost all the Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic Churches in my experience commemorate him as the Patriarch.
That other Churches (like the Moscow Patriarchate e.g.) don't recognize this - is their concern. Ours is to glorify God and obey the Patriarch and his Holy Synod.
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We're in the Van Nuys Eparchy, too (St. Mary's Cathedral, Sherman Oaks). Just wanted to give a "shout-out" to the other Van Nuys folks!!!
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Donna, im from St. Nicholas in Fontana, nice to hear from some one from our eparchy, so far ive talked to a person from annunication and St. marys, and me St. Nicholas.
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
We are only in communion with whoever is the Pope of Rome.
Hello Alex, Didn't you mean to say that you are in communion with 22 Catholic Churches and Me!!  I don't know what I'd do without the prayers of Ukrainian Greek Catholics.  Grace and peace to you, Paul
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Originally posted by Donna Ellis:
We're in the Van Nuys Eparchy, too (St. Mary's Cathedral, Sherman Oaks). Just wanted to give a "shout-out" to the other Van Nuys folks!!!
><> Hi Donna - - I go there too - do you recognize me? Theist Gal :-)
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Dear Friends, Yes, indeed, Lubomyr Cardinal Husar is our Patriarch and even our Basilians up here commemorate him as such. (When Husar was created a Cardinal, he put his Cardinal's ring in his pocket - the Italian press jumped on him for that and he said words to the effect that he'll only wear it when in Rome on Cardinal's business - it is not a title of concern for Eastern Churches) It'll take Rome some time to come around, but if the CCC is any indication, it is well on its way! FYI, an interesting piece on the UOC-MP website today. It notes that Patriarch Husar held a press conference to deny that he ever was a member of a masonic lodge. Instead, a relative of his, also "Lubomyr Husar" was a member of a Parisian masonic lodge called "Ukrayina" but, in his later years, left it and returned to the Church. http://www.orthodox.org.ua/win/nnews/News-R.php?id=2270 Alex
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