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Metropolitan Basil did not attend the funeral. Bishop John of Parma was the only US Ruthenian bishop in attendence.
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If I'm not mistaken, Metropolitan STEFAN, of Pittsburg for Ukrainians went there.
I still can't get over the profound ecumeniciality of the Eastern hiearchs/clergies.
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No, Met. Stefan resides in Philadelphia, for the Byzantine Catholic Archeparchy for Ukrainians.  Ung-Certez
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Well DUH! I'm soo DUMB!!  Sorry! Thanks for the correction. My mind was hazy from being up all night, only had 3 hours of sleep. But that's no excuse. I should be severely punished. SPDundas Deaf Byzantine
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... and Pittsburg should have a "h" on the end... Ung-Certez 
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Good evening. The official list of governmental dignitaries and representatives from other Churches can be found in number 199 of the Bolletino of the Holy See`s Press Office at this url: http://www.vatican.va/gpII/bulletin/B0199-XX.01.pdf So many people are accessing the various issues of the Bolletino that there are times when you may get an error message (not found or something similar). If you do, refresh your browser - sometimes it takes a few refreshings. The list of representatives of other Churches begins on page 9. It is a very impressive list. Peace, Charles
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Originally posted by Amadeus:
To our Eastern brothers and sisters, did both Orthodox (Eastern and Oriental) and Eastern Catholic hierarchs participate during the incantation of the Eastern litany? Amado, No. The hierarchs gathered around the coffin were all Eastern or Oriental Catholic. As the Orthodox have not yet celebrated Pascha, it would be inappropriate of them to chant Christos Anesti (putting aside the question of whether they would have found it theologically inappropriate to have participated to such a degree in a "joint" liturgical service). Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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Dear Neil, Having just watched the funeral last night, there was a point, after the singing of the Christos Anesti, where the memorial service was being chanted and a very large semi-circle of prelates were around the coffin with their back to us. A friend asked me if at THAT point, were any of the prelates from the Orthodox delegation that was there?  Commentary: You guys know that I love the services of both East and West, but I have to admit that the words of the Byzantine memorial service, including the 'pardoning of all of his offenses', and 'forgiving him every sin' was much theologically richer than anything I heard in the Latin Requiem Mass. PLEASE, I stand corrected if I missed something and I would appreciate the correction. BTW, my favorite part of the Mass for some reason was the invoking of the 'Litany of Saints', and my knowledge of languages was sufficient enough that I was able to pick up and understand all the names invoked.  Yours in Christ, Alice In any case, what a great witness to Jesus Christ it was to have a Mass and the explanation and theology behind it, celebrated and televised numerous times in its entirety, for people all over the globe. THINK about how awesome that is! Glory to GOD!
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Originally posted by alice: Having just watched the funeral last night, there was a point, after the singing of the Christos Anesti, where the memorial service was being chanted and a very large semi-circle of prelates were around the coffin with their back to us. A friend asked me if at THAT point, were any of the prelates from the Orthodox delegation that was there? Alice, I don't believe so. The camera angles made it impossible to identify all of those clustered, but my impression is that the Orthodox hierarchs remained to the left rear (I think, as I recollect) of those participating in the prayer. Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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"JPII, WE LOVE YOU", especially all of us here in the Christian East! You never forgot about your
maternal Eastern Christian heritage!
Vichnaja Jemu Pamjat'-Christos Voskres
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Christ is Risen!! Indeed He is Risen!!!
Can anyone identify for me the Oriental Catholic hierarch who was present wearing what appeared to be a "heart-shaped" red miter and a white cope? He appeared to be African, Middle Eastern, or Indian?
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BOB
My information was that he is Indian - though for the life of me I cannot remember the name
Neil ????????
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Indian, yes. He was a Syro-Malabar bishop, but don't recall if Archbishop Foley mentioned his name.
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I thought singing the Christos Anesti in front of the Orthodox Bishops just showed the difference between the two churches and did nothing for unity or understanding. To me it said, "we have our Easter and you have your Easter." I thought that the funeral songs, along with Eternal Memory, would have been more appropriate. I wonder in the long run if Pope John Paul II did a great deal to build up the Catholic Church (both Roman and Eastern Rite), at the expense of better relations with the Orthodox.
Also, could you ever imagine a Pope going to the funeral of an Orthodox Patriarch? I doubt it.
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I was surprised to hear "Christos Anesti" as well, thinking that the Eastern Catholics observe the Orthodox Paschalion.
Nevertheless, I thought it was a profoundly beautiful service that showcased the venerable antiquity of the Eastern Church.
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